Detail Info for: Porsche : 912 CA Car 5-guage, 5-Speed, Runs, Daily driver not long ago? SWB; Project car

Transaction Info
Sold On:
12/22/2011
Price:
$ 5778.00
Condition:
Mileage:
999999
Location:
Salt Lake City, UT, 84109
Seller Type:
Private seller
Vehicle Specification
Year Make Model:
1967 Porsche 912
Submodel Body Type:
Coupe
Engine:
4 - Cyl.
Transmission:
Manual
VIN:
459434
Vehicle Title:
Drive Train:
Fuel Type:
Gasoline
Standard Equipment:
Optional Equipment:
Vehicle Detail
California car, I purchased it a little over a year ago from a southern CA seller. Car was hit in the back, probably purchased by previous owner at an insurance sale? Been parked outside (with cover) at a storage place since I bought it. NB: Car has a Utah Salvage title (in my name), more on that below. I just want that to be clear upfront. (European bidders, probably isn't an issue?) This is a reluctant sale; I don't have a garage to keep and work on the car, and the storage bill is adding up. For my usage (daily driver, park on the street vintage car) this car would have been an easy project; I have no interest in provenance, numbers matching, concours etc. I just like driving vintage cars, have for years. Before I begin describing the car, let me say I'll endeavor to actually undersell the car. I've bought and sold probably close to a dozen cars on ebay over the years, and I've learned it just works better that way. My description of the car will be lacking, for two obvious reasons: I'm no expert, and even if I were it is impossible to describe a vintage car that needs work with any great degree of precision, they're mysterious beasts, and secondly, I just don't have any history with this particular car. So please, potential buyer, keep expectations realistic, especially if you're new to vintage cars or ebay. That said, here goes. Body. Pictures speak for the damage. Hit from the rear. Despite the look of the damage, probably wasn't a high-speed collision (the bumpers on a vintage Porsche are hollow, for show only, have no stopping value, and the body sheet metal is quite thin, almost bends by hand). I don't think there are any frame issues, but I'm not an expert. My plan was to spend a couple of weekends on it with a body hammer and some bondo, and go from there. The original hood is OK, bent, not latching properly, can be saved if absolutely needed; there's a crease along the bottom edge (hit the car in front?). I do have a replacement hood though, may be the easier way to go. Front bumper seems OK, straight. Deck lid needs to be replaced, which I have as well, including license plate sheet metal (see pics). I'll include those three pieces in the sale (around $500 in parts). The rear bumpers I think, and with a little creativity, can be saved. There's a dent on the passenger side fender. Rust. I don't want to assign any meaningless percentages, or overstate the case, so let me just say this, in a very general way regarding rust: rust is not an issue as far as I can tell, at least, not commensurate with this price range. I'm not really in a position to go over the car with a fine tooth comb, so some of what I say on this important aspect is guesswork. Please know that. Nothing really visible on the body, floors look OK too. Previous seller did mention he thought the front floor section had been repaired. I haven't been underneath the car, but the previous owner's ebay listing had excellent, at the shop photos (I wish I had those still!) of the underneath of the car; I was impressed, car looked as good rustwise from the bottom as I could have hoped for in this price range. The fact that it was a California car, pretty dry, and rust didn't seem to be an issue was the main reason why I bought the car, and I was quite happy when it was delivered, on that front. I can deal with collision damage, but rust is a different thing altogether. Mechanicals. Take this for what it's worth, but my guess is this car used to be a daily driver, before it was hit in the rear. When I got the car there were receipts, etc, underneath the seats, all dated from the last year or so. The tags date to '09. And the car just has that look and feel. Starts easy, usually on the first try in warm weather if it's been driven regularly. I've been religious about going to the storage place every other week and starting the car and driving it around the inside of the lot. Done this since I bought the car. The Good: With not too much work should go back to being a daily driver. Starts well. Good five speed gearbox (typical issue, doesn't like to downshift into first at speed, but they all do that). Motor revs well, free and evenly. Does it burn oil? Probably, in this price range they all do. I think most of the lights, etc work. Clutch pedal is a bit vague, but in my limited driving there's been no slipping etc whatsoever. The Work Needed (and obviously this is not an exclusive list): Needs a new brake master cylinder, leaks (the car definitely cannot be driven on open roads as is). Engine has usual old-car oil leaks. A lot of smaller things (aside from body) will need attention. By no means the exclusive list: Driver's side window needs fixing; needs horn button/rubber bushing; tach works, but speedo shakes, and temp gauge reads hot; Shocks need replacing (car is quite bouncy); needs headlamp cover; will need tires, tread is actually good, but they have sidewall rot. Probably more things, I just don't know enough about the car. Interior. It's OK, everything is more or less there, but it'll need redoing to look good. The seats are pretty saggy, to be honest. Salvage Title. Car has a title in my name, branded 'Salvage Title, Not Suitable for Registration'. The last part applies to Utah only I'm sure (but please check with your DMV for specifics). The 'Not Suitable for Registration' phrase is meaningless, it just means the car hasn't been safety inspected yet, which is stating the obvious; the only thing I need to do to register the car and get that phrase removed would be to get it inspected, and after which I could have the title replaced with one branded 'Rebuilt Title'. Unless you plan on making a concours car out of this particular Porsche (and I don't think this one is the typical candidate) for practical purposes the 'Salvage' designation has no meaning, except when it comes to resale. It does put a downward pressure on resale value, but for a potential buyer, that can be a good thing; I've got the car priced close to $1000 lower than where I would have if it had a regular title. So it goes both ways. The last two cars I've sold on ebay, both vintage Porsches, have gone to Europe. Anecdotally I can only say I don't think the 'Salvage' issue has any applicability in Europe (that's what people have told me), but any potential bidder outside the US should look into that with their local office. Fine Print. Nothing unusual, but let me list it anyway. As with any used car sale, this is an 'As-Is, Where Is' sale. No warranty is given, express or implied. A $500 deposit is due within 48 hours, and the balance due within 7 days, whether car has been picked up or not. Balance due with cash, certified check or electronic transfer, and funds must clear before car is picked up. Winning bidder enters into an enforceable contract, not an invitation to come look at the car. No tire kickers, please. If you're unsure of anything, please ask me about it first, before bidding, I'll do my best to answer questions quickly and fully (just please remember, I'm not an expert, and don't know too much about this car). If you have no or low or negative feedback, please contact me before bidding. I reserve the right to cancel those bids. Buyer is responsible for all shipping arrangements, but of course I'll try to facilitate. Car can stay in storage after it's been paid for if need be, if buyer pays for storage ($35/month). International bidders are of course welcome. Last word. I want this to be an excellent transaction for both buyer and seller. I've got the car reserved at pretty close to a $1000 loss (including the price I paid for the replacement hood and deck lid). Please keep expectations realistic, this is a Porsche on the bottom end of the price scale, after all. Thanks (I'm not much of a techie but I'll try to post more pictures, and some video of the car running, on photobucket. I'll update with a link.) On Dec-18-11 at 17:34:28 PST, seller added the following information: More Pictures, Notes. I've added these and more pictures onto a photobucket slideshow, including a couple of very technically-challenged videos of the car running (it gets the point across, the car runs). I've added the pictures not to show off the car in the common sense of that phrase, rather I just want potential bidders to have access to as much info--albeit limited--about the car as possible in order to make an informed decision. Links are below, cut and paste into a new window. Couple of obvious things to most of you, but not so obvious to dense cats like me: The metallic blue isn't the original color obviously, I finally overcame my laziness and looked up the color code, if I'm reading it right it's 6605, which would put it as Bahama Yellow. There isn't a trace of any color other than the blue on the car, at least as far as I've seen. An observant picture viewer noted it's the main floor section that has been replaced; looks like a decent job, but Porsche floorpan wasn't used. The replacement hood I have is in good condition rust-wise, but obviously it'll need to be stripped completely. The links: http://s762.photobucket.com/albums/xx263/013znk/Blue%2067%20912%20Porsche/?albumview=slideshow http://s762.photobucket.com/albums/xx263/013znk/2%20Blue%20Porsche%20912%20Video/