Detail Info for: Oldsmobile: Toronado Coupe 1967 oldsmobile toronado

Transaction Info
Sold On:
02/10/2016
Price:
$ 6800.00
Condition:
Mileage:
39604
Location:
Brookhaven, New York, 11719
Seller Type:
Private Seller
Vehicle Specification
Year Make Model:
1967 Oldsmobile Toronado
Submodel Body Type:
Coupe
Engine:
425
Transmission:
Automatic
VIN:
396877M61xxxx
Vehicle Title:
Clear
Drive Train:
Fuel Type:
Gasoline
Standard Equipment:
Optional Equipment:
Vehicle Detail
Hello to all Ebayers! I have been with EBay for several years and I want to keep my reputation with EBay at 100%. I bought this vehicle with the intention of bringing it to California to add to my collection but I recently sold my building and lost the warehouse I was storing my vehicles in. I have a NY Transferable Registration that will be mailed to the buyer. This Oldsmobile Toronado is located in a Copart facility in Brookhaven, New York. I tried to sell it on Copart but this vehicle is a classic clean vehicle and they have a salvage yard so it's not the best place to sell this vehicle there. PRICED TO SELL !!! Here is the description I have from the previous owner: "This Oldsmobile Toronaod has a big block engine. It runs well and is a solid daily driver with functioning A/C and heaters. Pop out lights work. Indicators work. Radio works. Break lights work, esxcellent brakes, new comfortable interior. "Cream puff" suspension and ride, remarkable steering (complete a three point turn with your pinkie). A design ahead of its time and the first front wheel drive 425 V8. This Toronado is elegant and turns heads. It drives very smooth and tons of power and very quiet. I drove the Mercury hovered around 90 and the car kept cool, despite running and the A/C at all times. The car is pretty much all original except the interior seats, headliner, and carpet near window. The paint has some chips here and there but overall it looks very presentable as you can see in the picture. The automatic "popout" light work perfectly supplied with car. Dash clock is not working. Needs light bulbs to light dashboardpanel instrumentation. Suspension is excellent. Although engine compression is excellent and power is impressive." This vehicle is Priced to Sell!!! Kelly Blue Book Classic Value: Low Price: $9,531 Average Price: $21,750 High Price: $39,125 Here is some information about this car from Wikipedia: " The original Toronado began as a design painting by Oldsmobile stylist David North in 1962. His design, dubbed the "Flame Red Car", was for a compact sports/personal car never intended for production. A few weeks after the design was finished, however, Oldsmobile division was informed it would be permitted to build a personal car in the Riviera/Thunderbird class for the 1966 model year, and North's design was selected. For production economy, the still-unnamed car was to share the so-called E-body shell with the redesigned 1966 Buick Riviera, which was substantially bigger than North had envisioned. Despite the efforts of Oldsmobile and General Motors styling chief Bill Mitchell to put the car on the smaller A-body intermediate, they were overruled for cost reasons.Oldsmobile had been working on front-wheel drive since 1958, a project shepherded by engineer John Beltz (who originated the 4-4-2[5] and would later become head of the division). Although initially envisioned for the smaller F-85 line, its cost and experimental nature pushed the program towards a larger, more expensive car. Engineer F. J. Hooven of the Ford Motor Company, had patented a similar FWD layout, and Ford was seriously considering the design for the 1961 Ford Thunderbird. However, the time to develop and engineer such a design in such short notice made this a doubtful proposition.The unusual Toronado powertrain, which combined an engine and transmission into an engine bay no larger than a conventional rear-wheel drive car, was dubbed the Unitized Power Package (UPP). During its seven-year development, UPP components were driven over 1.5 million test miles to verify their strength and reliability. They proved so over-built the UPP was employed basically unchanged in the 1970s GMC motorhome.As debuted, the innovative Toronado featured such GM developments as the:Heavy-duty Turbo-Hydramatic 400 three-speed automatic transmission (named THM425 in FWD form)Rochester Quadrajet four-barrel carburetorSpherical shaped exhaust-manifold flange gaskets, which provided freedom of movement in the exhaust system and prevented leaks"Draft-Free" ventilation system, which reduced wind noise considerably by eliminating conventional front-door vent windowsFirestone also designed an 8.85" x 15" tire especially for the Toronado called the TFD (Toronado-Front-Drive) tire. It had a stiffer sidewall than normal, and the tread and stylishly thin white pin-stripe were also unique.To power the car, Oldsmobile engineers selected a conventional, although performance-boosted, Olds 425 cu in (7 L) Super Rocket V8 rated at 385 hp (287 kW) and 475 ft·lb (644 N·m) of torque. It provided an increase of 10 hp (7.5 kW) over the Starfire 425, and an increase of 20 hp (15 kW) over the standard 425 engine in theNinety-Eight. The Toronado's intake manifold was unique and was depressed down to allow for engine hood clearance.The Turbo-Hydramatic heavy-duty three-speed automatic transmission became available during development of the Toronado. Called the TH425 in FWD form, the transmission's torque converter was separated from its planetary gearset, with the torque converter driving the gearset through a 2 in (51 mm) wide silent chain-drive called Hy-Vo, riding on two 12 in (30 cm) sprockets. The Hy-Vo chain drive was developed by GM's Hydra-Matic Division and Morse Chain Division of Borg-Warner. The chains were made from a very strong hardened steel and required no tensioners or idler pulleys because they were pre-stretched on a special machine at the factory. Although the rotation direction of the transmission's gearing had to be reversed, a large number of components were shared with the conventional TH400. Use of the automatic also obviated the need to devise a workable manual-shift linkage; no manual transmission was ever contemplated, as engineers deemed performance to be adequate with the automatic transmission and the fact that virtually all U.S.-built luxury cars during this period came with automatic transmissions as standard equipment. With this, the 0–60 mph (0–97 km/h) time was clocked in 9.5 seconds.[6]The Toronado was GM's first subframe automobile, which means it was partly unitized, and used a subframe that ended at the forward end of the rear suspension leaf springs, serving as an attachment point for the springs. It carried the powertrain, front suspension and floorpan, allowing greater isolation of road and engine harshness (the design was conceptually similar to the Chevrolet Camaro and Pontiac Firebird that would debut for 1967).For space reasons, Oldsmobile adopted torsion bars for the Toronado's front suspension (the first GM passenger car application of torsion bars), with conventional, unequal-length double wishbones.[2] Rear suspension was a simple beam axle on single leaf springs, unusual only in having dual shock absorbers, one vertical, one horizontal (allowing it to act as a radius rod to control wheel movement).Brakes were hydraulically-operated 11 in (279 mm) drums, which were generally considered the Toronado's weak link. Being a rather heavy car, after several panic stops, the brake drums would overheat, resulting in considerable fade and long stopping distances. The 1967 addition of vented front disc brakes as an option provided substantial improvement.[6]The Toronado's UPP enabled the interior to have a completely flat floor,[7] but interior space (primarily rear seat headroom) was somewhat restricted by the fastback styling.As with many coupes, the Toronado featured elongated doors to allow easier access for passengers entering the rear seats. Door-latch handles were even duplicated at the rear of each door enabling passengers to open the doors without having to reach over or around the front seat; this feature was also available on the other two E-bodies, continuing until 1980 on the Eldorado.Options included headrests ($52)[4] and a tilt-telescopic steering column.[8]Drivers faced a highly stylized steering wheel with a double-delta shaped horn ring which framed the view of an unusual "slot-machine" speedometer, which consisted of a stationary horizontal "needle" and a vertically rotating black drum on which the numerals were printed in white. The numerals descended behind the needle as the vehicle gained speed. All other gauges, indicators and controls were grouped within fairly easy reach of the driver.Despite an average test-weight approaching 5,000 lb (2,268 kg), published performance test data shows the 1966 Toronado was capable of accelerating from 0–60 mph (0–97 km/h) in 7.5 seconds, and through the standing 1/4 mile (~400 m) in 16.4 seconds at 93 mph (150 km/h).[1] It was also capable of a maximum speed of 135 mph (217 km/h).[2] Testers found the Toronado's handling, despite its noticeable front weight bias and consequent understeer, was not substantially different from other full-size American cars when driven under normal conditions. In fact, many contemporary testers felt that the Toronado was more poised and responsive than other cars, and when pushed to the limits, exhibited superior handling characteristics, although it was essentially incapable of terminal oversteer.The Toronado sold reasonably well at introduction, with 40,963 produced for 1966. Some television commercials featured former NASA Project Mercury public affairs officer John "Shorty" Powers, Oldsmobile's primary commercial spokesperson of the era, along with racing legend Bobby Unser driving the vehicle and commenting favorably on the Toronado's handling. [3]The car also gained great publicity for the division by winning several leading automotive awards, such as Motor Trend's Car of the Year Award[9] and Car Life's Award for Engineering Excellence. It also was a third-place finisher in the European Car of the Yearcompetition.Sales for the 1967 model, which was most notably distinguished by a slight facelift, the addition of optional disc brakes, and a slightly softer ride, dropped by nearly half, to 22,062. A stereo tape player was optional.[10] It would be 1971 before the Toro would match its first-year sales mark.In 1967, Cadillac adopted its own version of the UPP for the Cadillac Eldorado, using the Cadillac V8 engine. The Eldorado also shared the basic E-body shell with the Toronado and Riviera, but its radically different styling meant that the three cars did not look at all similar.The first-generation Toronado lasted with the usual annual facelifts through 1970. Other than the brakes, the major changes were the replacement of the original 425 cu in (7 L) V8 with the new 455 cu in (7.5 L) in 1968 that was rated at 375 hp (280 kW) in standard form or 400 hp (298 kW) with the W-34 option, revised rear quarter panels (with small fins to disguise the slope of the rear body in side view) in 1969, and the disappearance of hidden headlights and the introduction of squared wheel arch bulges in 1970. An ignition lock became standard in 1969.[3]Slight interior cosmetic changes were also implemented for each new model year, and a full-length center console with floor-mounted shifter was available as an extra-cost option with the Strato bucket seats from 1968 to 1970, though few Toronados were so ordered. The vast majority of customers went for the standard Strato bench seat to take full advantage of the flatter floor resulting from the front-drive layout; the lack of a "hump" in the floor made three-abreast seating more comfortable than in rear-drive cars, as the center passengers both front and rear did not have to sit with their legs in an awkward position.The firmness of the suspension, and thus the quality of the ride, was gradually softened through the years as well, hinting at what Toronado eventually would become in 1971. Interestingly, a heavy-duty suspension was offered optionally on later first generation Toronados, which included the original torsion bar springs that were used on the 1966.A special option code called W-34 was available on the 1968–70 Toronado. This option included a cold air induction system for the air cleaner, a special performance camshaft and a "GT" transmission calibrated for quick and firm up-shifts and better torque multiplication at 5 mph (8 km/h). Dual exhaust outlets similar to the 1966–67 model years with cutouts in the bumper were also included with W-34. The standard models did have dual exhaust systems, but only a single somewhat hidden outlet running from the muffler exiting rearward on the right side. For 1970 only, the W-34 option also included special "GT" badges on the exterior of the car. The W-34 Toronado was capable of 0–60 mph in 7.5 seconds and the standing 1/4 mile in 15.7 seconds at 89.8 mph (144.5 km/h).[4]Manufacturer's specificationsEngine: 1966–67 - 425 cu in (7 L) OHV V8, 1968–70 - 455 cu in (7.5 L) OHV V8Power: 1966–67 - 385 hp (287 kW) @ 4800 rpm, 1968–70 - 375 hp (280 kW) @ 4400 rpm, 400 (298 kW) @ 5000 rpm with option code W-34Torque: 1966–67 – 475 ft·lb (644 N·m) @ 3200 rpm, 1968–70 – 510 ft·lb (690 N·m) @ 3000 rpm, 500 ft·lb (680 N·m) @ 3200 rpm with option code W-34Transmission: 3-speed automatic, Turbo-Hydramatic 425 (THM-425)Final drive ratio: 1966–67 - 3.21:1, 1968–70 - 3.07:1Wheelbase: 119 in (3,000 mm)Overall length: 1966–67 - 211 in (5,400 mm), 1968 - 211.6 in (5,370 mm), 1969–70 - 214.8 in (5,460 mm)Overall height: 52.8 in (1,340 mm)Overall width: 78.5 in (1,990 mm)Track, front/rear: 63.5 in (1,610 mm) / 63 in (1,600 mm)Weight, shipping/curb: 4,311 lb (1,955 kg)/ 4,496 lb (2,039 kg)Weight distribution, front/rear (%): 60.3/39.7" This is your chance to own this Oldsmobile Toronado for a very reasonable price. If you want to talk to me email me a phone number through Ebay and I will call you or you can ask your questions through Ebay. I want to make sure that you are satisfied with your purchase. Please bid with confidence and if you have any questions that I might not have covered in the description, please don’t hesitate to ask. You can email me or send me your phone number and I will give you a call. I will help arrange shipping. You can try United Auto Transport for shipping. They’re a very reliable company. Call 800-963-5505 to receive a quote for transport. I’m able to store it for two weeks after purchase is made if you need time lining it up. After 2 weeks the storage facility will charge a daily storage fee. This vehicle is advertised on other sites so I have the right to end the auction if the vehicle gets sold. Keep in mind she’s over 40 years old. I’m not a dealer, just passionate about classic cars and trucks. Please be ready to buy when you click. A non refundable $500 deposit is due at purchase and final payment within 7 days. Balance is to be paid by bank wire or a certified bank cashier’s check. Check will need to clear before the vehicle will be released and title is sent. The winning bidder needs to contact me within 24 hours of auction end to make payment arrangements. Please arrange all financing prior to bidding. If you are not sure about something please ask! Do not assume anything. All non-paying high bidders will be reported to EBay. General Information: People have different opinions and expectations of old cars. It is your responsibility to inspect the vehicle or send a third party inspector for your satisfaction. Remember this is a 49 year old vehicle and can have some imperfections that are not in the description that I am not aware of. As with most pre-owned vehicles, minor wear may be discernible and degree of wear is often related to age of the vehicle such as but not limited to: scuffs, scratches, dings, dents, fading, paintwork, minor rock chips, and other imperfections. If you are buying and paying for this vehicle you are 100% satisfied. This is your chance to own this great classic.