Detail Info for: Ford : Crown Victoria P72 CNG Natural Gas, CA Car Pool, Leather, Upgraded Shocks, eBay Vehicle Inspection

Transaction Info
Sold On:
04/29/2012
Price:
$ 5900.00
Condition:
Mileage:
95000
Location:
Palmdale, California, 93551
Seller Type:
Private seller
Vehicle Specification
Year Make Model:
1999 Ford Crown Victoria
Submodel Body Type:
P72 Sedan
Engine:
4.6L 8 Cylinder Natural Gas Fuel
Transmission:
Automatic
VIN:
2FAFP7290XX124815
Vehicle Title:
Drive Train:
Rear Wheel Drive
Fuel Type:
CNG
Standard Equipment:
Adjustable Steering Wheel
Optional Equipment:
Vehicle Detail
1999 Factory Converted CNG (Compressed Natural Gas) Crown Victoria. P72 Commercial Heavy Duty model. It's primary use was for taxis. According to the information on the internet, the P72 has upgraded alternator, springs, transmission and power steering cooler and a few other items. It was originally owned by the City of Austin, Texas for their motor pool, it was never used for police work. I purchased it in December 2005 from them with 7,426 miles, which meant that it had only been driven under 1,000 miles per year. The paint was a little faded and it had vinyl floors, basic wheel covers on steel wheels and a black grill...in other words, it looked like a taxi. I "civilianized" it by having the car painted, replaced the black grill and exterior door handles with chrome, and installed carpet and leather interior. I replaced the steel wheels with Lincoln alloy wheels, as these were the best looking wheels I could find that had the same exact offsets and size, and I didn't want to run spacers or wheels that weren't the correct factory specifications. (If you really want the taxi wheels, I have them in my storage unit) It has not had radio wiring or any holes for radios or antennas, which most CNG Crown Vics have had. It has been a great, trouble free commuter for me, and I have put almost 90,000 miles on it. I ran across a 2003 CNG Crown Vic with low miles, and on a whim purchased it. For the last few months, I have had two "twin" cars in the driveway. Since this makes no sense, I can only drive one at a time, this one goes up for sale. In preparation for selling, I wanted to make sure the buyer didn't have any issues, so I started doing the "little things" to make it ready for a new buyer. I started with the shocks, as they were starting to sag. I replaced them with Eidelbrock shocks, and wow, this made a huge difference in handling...I kicked myself for not installing them years before when I purchased the car. I installed new brakes (all four wheels) did a tune up with new plugs and replaced the fuel filter. The tires are a matched set of Michelin MXV4s with 8/32" left on them. In preparation for selling, I engaged eBay's car inspection service, SGS, which is usually by the buyer. The only thing mechanical that they found was that the driver's windshield washer wasn't working. I just went out to the car and turned on the windshield wipers and pushed the button and it worked fine. Personally, I think that it just wasn't primed, as it had been empty and I had filled it, but becuase he put that it doesn't work, I won't guarantee that the washer is working. There were a number of cosmetic" issues, which would be expected for a car this age. The paint job was 6 years ago and it has nearly 100,000 miles since then. There are numerous chips and there are scrapes on the bumpers. There are no dents. He identified that the car had been repainted (which I did in 2006) and the one rear fender had been repaired (a pole in a parking lot, my fault). The leather panel on the entrance to the driver's seat is worn. The front windshield has a small chip low by the windshield wiper (I hadn't noticed it from the interior of the car) and the radiator support is slightly bent (I don't know what happened here). There are no other issues that I am aware of. You are welcome to have your own inspector check out the car or drive it or inspect it yourself to see if anything has been missed. The car is in Palmdale, California, which is the north end of Los Angeles County. Here is a link to SGS's inspection. There is no spare tire, although I can provide a steel wheel if someone desires. http://www.sgsauto.com/ocr/onlinecr.aspx?link=cYMUZYGCUGJHTGcQQbIZ&DOC=CR&LANG=EN&MID=84368 This is a 3,000 psi system and the standard four tank configuration, which holds about 8.5 gallon equivalent. It gets around 20 mpg, which gives about a 170 mile range. I generally don't try to push it more than 140-150 to be safe. This is more of a commuter car than a long range car, due to the range. The range and number of filling locations are, as far as I'm concerned, the only negatives of natural gas. The cost, in California, ranges from $2.25 to $2.75 per gallon equiveliant. There are dual fuel systems, but my understanding is that they are not as reliable and they do not qualify for car pool access in California, although they do in some states. California has extended the car pool access for CNG to January 2015, unless they extend again, which they have done in the past. If the purchaser is from Utah, the Utah credit is still available. If I read it correctly, this allows a 35% tax credit of the price paid for the car, up to $2,500 maximum. If you're planning on taking this credit, please verify with the State of Utah how it works. I just had the car smogged, and it passed fine. This is the third smog one I've done (every two years) without any problem. The tanks were manufactured on 7/1998 and show an expiration date of 12/2013. I don't think anyone knows what that really means. I have never heard of any enforcement, but for potential disclosure reasons I list this here. Since this car was manufactured, the government has changed the tank life (without any change in specifications) to 25 years. I don't think that anyone really knows what that means to tanks that were manufactured before the dates changed. You will need to decide if this is a factor in your decision to buy a CNG car. If you are comfortable driving a small car and want a car that will be environmentally friendly and get solo carpool lane access in California, you have two choices, the Crown Vic or the Honda Civic. I'm 6'3" and spend up to three hours a day in a car, so I'm not going to spend that time in a Honda Civic. There were a few other models that were factory CNG for a few cars, but these would be hard to find parts for, and I would suggest that you stick with the Honda or Ford (there are some pickups and vans, if this is your preference) . I would also suggest that you stick to a factory converted car. The mechanics of the car and the 4.6 V8 engine are the same as a regular Crown Vic. The fuel storage and delivery system is the only thing that is different, so most parts are readily available. Many people ask me if it is safe. I did my research and came to the conclusion that if a tank were to be ruptured (unlikely) the gas would go into the air. If this is a concern of yours, you should research the various tests and articles on the internet pertaining to this. There is no loan and title is in hand. The positives:California Car Pool Lane Access Solo (at least until January 1, 2015, unless extended again)Independent eBay inspection completed and available to buyer Lower fuel costs (generally from $2.25 to $2.75 per gallon equivalent). For prices near you, do a search for sites for CNG prices Edelbrock Shocks, which greatly improve handlingLeather InteriorLincoln Alloy WheelsNew brakes (all four)Taxi (P72) heavy duty upgradesPower windows/doors and mirrors (all work)Strong A/CLow miles for the year (less than 8,000 miles per year)Home fueling options are available ( I have not needed, as there are two stations convenient to me).People pull over and let you in when changing lanes when they see a white Crown Vic:)Environmentally friendlyUses fuel from the US (We have an abundant supply of natural gas) The negatives:Bumper and paint dings/scratches. Shorter range than a gasoline car (170 or so max, I generally try to fill at no more than 140 miles to be safe)Fewer filling stationsCracking/wear on the outside panel of the driver's seat (see photos)Some overspray from previous paint jobDecember 2013 date on tanks On Apr-23-12 at 10:50:28 PDT, seller added the following information: SquareTrade © AP6.0