1967 Chevrolet Camaro

CONVERTIBLE Convertible

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1967 CAMARO CONVERTIBLE PROJECT ORIGINAL RS/SS 350 or L30/M20 ORIGINAL ROYAL PLUM PAINT CODE Since this car has no engine or transmission I can not tell what it truly was. However, its’ cowl tag, having the 4P, shows it to have been one of 2 very desirable combinations: An RS/SS 350 4 speed Or an RS L30/M20 4 speed Since I don’t want to misrepresent the car as one or the other I have decoded the cowl tag below. Further below are several close up photos of areas, such as the firewall, which may help. TRIM TAG Close up of the trim tag, showing car to be an 03A car. With the 12 bolt rear end being a January build, one can assume that it is probably original to the car. It still has the factory traction bar. Here is how the trim tag (cowl tag) decodes: 03A First week of March production 797-Z deluxe parchment interior M-1 Royal Plum paint, white conv top W tinted front w/s, clear side glass D Power conv top 2L 4 speed floor shift 2G console 2S manual rear antenna 2R rear speaker 3L rally sport 4P either a 350 SS or an L30/M20 12 BOLT REAR END CODING This picture shows a close up of the code on the passenger forward side of the rear axel. By virtue of being an 03A car (first week of March), the 12 bolt was mandatory for the L30/M20 at that time, having been phased in during the 02 (Feburary) time period. This changeover from the 10 bolt has been documented in the May 67 issue of Chevrolet Service News. DISC BRAKES Pictured below are the original delco “4 piston” calipers and original style rotors – a very valuable option and rarely left on these old cars. The 69’s used 2 piston calipers. So original 4 piston ones are much harder to come by, especially since Corvettes of that era also used them. Note that in 1967 disc brakes were not required on the SS or L30/M20 options. Power assist was also not required for front disc brakes in 1967. FACTORY TRACTION BAR In the 80's and 90's I used to think that 4P meant the car was an SS 350. However published articles now show that a non-SS L30/M20 would also receive have a Trim Tag with a 4P since the designation was for the type of traction bar. This picture shows a close up from underneath the car of the factory traction bar on the right hand side THE TAC Here is a close up of the tach. Like the firewall holes shown further below, some people feel that the red line helps in determining the lineage of the car. Do note that there have been documented exceptions to generally accepted guidelines. Therefore I do not feel that this particular redline offers anything definitive THE GAUGES Car came with tac & gauges. Interior is very poor, as to what is left, and will need replacement. Seats do have the correct metal backings which are 67 only. Console is in nice shape with no noticeable cracks. Gauges will need refurbishing. THE COLOR – ROYAL PLUM Royal Plum, designated M, is generally considered to be one of the rarer and more desirable colors for 1967. Estimates run below 5% for production of this paint color. This convertible, when restored to its’ original color, will make a stunning statement. CLOSE UP The car has recent patch quarters installed in these photos. Since then the work has gotten weathered and will need some attention. As you can see, car had a rear antenna. THE UNDERSIDES This car is quite solid in those all important underside areas. A lot of listings say that, but these pics will show you just what I mean. Since the car has not been sandblasted, it does have surface rust, but I think you will agree that there is no major rust. This is a picture taken from the LH side, as you can see the rear end facing forward. It shows the muffler system which was on the car when I got it back in the early 80’s. LH wheel well with a shot of the original muffler system, which I did not cut out so as to leave documentation of what the car had originally. Its’ design is consistent with the standard exhaust system for an SS and also the optional system for an L30/M20. Close up shot of the LH front wheelwell area and lower frame rail Right hand area and another shot of muffler system Lower area of frame rail Shot of convertible bracing and rear floor pan FIREWALL/LOWER COWL RH side of lower firewall/cowl area. Many cars are rusted out in this area. Also note the original paint LH Side Lower firewall area, LH side RH lower side FIREWALL HOLES This is a shot of the firewall. Several people think that the location of various holes help determine what type of options the car came with. Closer shot of where the holes are NO ENGINE OR TRANSMISSION Since the convertible is shown in so many phases I thought it would be best to emphasize that it does not come with an engine or transmission. TRUNK AREA The trunk area is generally quite solid but looks “flaky” for lack of a better term. Much of the surface of the trunk area has had some kind of film applied to it – which over the years has been peeling up Center shot – here you can get a better idea of the peeling Close up of the LH wheelwell area, which still has the original spatter paint RH wheelwell shot WING WINDOW NEEDS REPLACEMENT In moving the car a person grabbed the wing window assembly to try to move it and in the process bent the wing window metal. As a consequence, the door will not now close properly. As you can see here, the metal part of the wing window is bent, so I have not closed the door fully so as to avoid damage to the door itself. Picture from the front showing the wing window Since the door closed properly before moving the car, a replacement of the wing window assembly is all that I feel is necessary. Hopefully I have shown you quite about the car. As either an RS/SS or L30/M20 it has quite a bit of potential and is a solid body for you to start with. Note: Pictures were taken earlier, just after applying a new coat of primer, so primer has naturally weathered and faded since then. Some limited amount of sanding and reprimering work will naturally be required to get the car to look as it did in the pictures taken just after having been worked. FROM FRONT TO END TO 2011 IF YOU WANT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION A very detailed story on the uniqueness and rarity of the L30/M20 option can be found at: “The Unassuming High-Performance Camaro - the 1967-68 L30/M20” If you are serious about bidding on this car I would strongly suggest that you read the above article which you can find through Google or Camaros.org. It gives a lot of factual details which will help you in determining what this convertible really was. Additionally, it gives some surprisingly low production estimates. However keep in mind that the car could also be a RS/SS 350. BEING SOLD ‘AS IS’ Sold ‘AS IS’ with no warranty, either expressed, written, or implied. Some pictures may show other cars and various loose parts in and outside of the car which do not belong to this car. Neither the parts or the adjacent vehicles or buildings are included as a part of this auction. Wheels/tires may be different from those pictured. DEPOSIT Payment is to be within 48 hours of close of auction, and is to be made as explained in the Terms of Sale below. This deposit is non refundable. BALANCE The balance due is required within 7 days of auction close as explained in the Terms of Sale. PICKUP TO BE IN OKLAHOMA Please note that the item is located in Oklahoma and that pickup will be there. Pickup can not be made prior to receipt of full payment. Any pick up date will have to be MUTUALLY agreed upon. Pick up is to be no later than 21 days after close of auction unless mutually agreed upon to be otherwise. TITLE/LOADING ISSUES Upon completion of the transaction, as noted in the Terms of Sale, you will be given the Oklahoma title which is in my name and is free and clear and is not some salvage title. I do not have a current year tag for the car, which if deemed necessary, is to be the responsibility of the Buyer. Car has no brakes, etc, so loading may be difficult. Please plan accordingly and provide the necessary means and manpower. If using a transport please advise them of the loading issues. The car is easily accessible for loading. RETURN POLICY If for ANY REASON you find the item to be unacceptable you will be refunded the purchase price paid minus your deposit. The deposit is not refundable under any circumstance. Should you send a transport to pick up the item you will have an option to return it but will have to pay the costs of transport. The Return Policy is covered in greater detail in the Terms of Sale below. TERMS OF SALE WHEN YOU BID ON THIS ITEM,YOU ARE CONFIRMING THAT YOU ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH ALL TERMS LISTED HEREIN AND CONFIRMING ACCEPTANCE OF THIS AS A LEGALLY BINDING CONTRACT SHOULD YOU BE THE HIGH BIDDER. Buyer confirms that he/she is of legal age. If Buyer has less than 10 feedback Seller has the right to reject the bid per the Terms herein. DEPOSIT: A deposit of one thousand dollars ($1000.00) is required within 48 hours of auction close, to be through payment methods noted below. Should the required deposit not be received within 48 hours Seller shall have right to offer to and sell the item to other bidders or non-bidders immediately after the 72nd hour. If proper deposit payment has not been received by the end of the 48th hour the Buyer will be considered to be in default of the Terms of Sale contract and will both have lost any right to the item and be subject to damages due to the Seller from such default. This deposit is not refundable under any circumstances. PAYMENT DUE BEFORE PICK UP: No payment upon pick up allowed. PAYMENT TIMING: Deposit as noted above is required within 48 hours of auction close, to be through approved payment methods. The remaining balance is due prior to pickup and within seven days of the close of the auction, whichever shall occur first. No payment upon pickup. Should the item not be fully paid for by end of seven days from close of auction, Buyer will lose all rights to the item, to include loss of his/her initial deposit unless Buyer and Seller mutually agree upon an extension through e-mail. PAYMENT METHODS: Payment can be made with any of the following: (a) Wire transfer to Seller's bank or (b) direct deposit into Seller's Bank of America account. Seller will not accept Pay Pal unless Buyer agrees to pay the associated fees. If Seller is in doubt, for any reason whatsoever, as to the validity of the transfer or payment, Seller reserves the right to delay pickup until verification from Seller's bank that said payment has properly cleared. No cash payments. Should Buyer choose to submit full payment as one sum and do so within 72 hours, Buyer shall still be considered as having made a deposit and a final payment so as to be eligible for a refund as detailed below, should one become necessary. AS IS: This item is being sold ‘AS IS” and “WHERE IS” with no warranty, either expressed, written, or implied. The Seller shall not be responsible for the correct description, authenticity, genuineness, or defects herein, and makes no warranty in connection therewith. No allowance or contract set aside will be made on account of any incorrectness, imperfection, defect or damage. Any and all descriptions or representations are for identification purposes only and are not to be construed as a warranty or guaranty of any type. TITLE & ACCEPTANCE OF SALE: When notified by Buyer of acceptance of item, Seller will through USPS Priority Mail send the Oklahoma title to the Buyer, provided properly approved receipt by Seller of full payment from Buyer has been made. Should the Buyer desire faster service such as overnight, such costs shall be those of the Buyer. Car does not have a current tag. Costs and responsibility for obtaining such are to be those of the Buyer. ACCEPTANCE: Seller will await Buyer’s Acceptance of item before signing and mailing title. Once the title is signed, item has in effect become the property of the Buyer. As such, a return is not allowed from that point forward. PICKUP: Pickup will be allowed only after full payment has been received and approved as detailed above by Seller. Buyer is responsible for arranging for and paying for transport and shipping costs, with pickup being at Seller’s place in Oklahoma. Pickup shall be made within 21 days of close of auction and shall be a date mutually agreed upon between Buyer and Seller to include storage fees if pickup is scheduled beyond 21 days after close of auction. Should the car not be picked up within 21 days of close of auction, Buyer will lose all rights to the car, to include loss of his/her initial deposit unless Buyer and Seller mutually agree upon an extension through e-mail. Should Buyer lose rights to the car, any monies received by Seller in excess of initial base fee would be refunded to Buyer, less any Pay Pal or wire fees incurred by Seller. RETURN POLICY: No refunds are allowable after Acceptance of Item by Buyer. If not yet accepted and Title not yet received, refunds, as detailed herein, are allowed after inspection by Buyer or by Buyer’s representative. No refunds of initial deposit. If item is rejected upon a timely inspection, balance of payments over and above the stated deposit amount made by Buyer to the Seller are to be refunded by Seller to Buyer within 10 days of satisfactory return of the item subject to limitations described herein. Seller shall be allowed to reduce the refund amount due to the Buyer for any Pay Pal fees incurred by Seller. Refunds to be in the form of a Cashier's Check and to be made upon completion of Buyer's responsibilities as regards return policies stated herein. Under no circumstances are any costs incurred by the Buyer in conjunction with picking up or returning the item to be considered refundable. For a refund to be allowable the item must be verified by Seller to be in exact condition as it was prior to arrival by Buyer or Buyer’s transport company for pickup and Buyer must have returned Title to Seller in a form identical to which it was issued to Buyer should an unsigned Title have been sent to Buyer. IF USING LOCAL PICKUP: Buyer is required to notify Seller of intent to refuse item prior to loading the item. If Buyer inspects item, it shall be left in exact condition as it was prior to inspection for a refund to be allowable per the terms herein this Agreement. Once item is inspected transaction is complete and no refunds are allowed. IF USING A TRANSPORT: Buyer shall inspect the item within 24 hours of delivery by transport. Should the Buyer find, upon delivery and inspection of the item, that the item is unsatisfactory, the Buyer shall notify the Seller of such within 24 hours of delivery drop off for a refund to be allowable per the terms herein this Agreement. Buyer shall be responsible for all costs of transport - including the cost of return transport and loading/unloading to return the item. The item must be returned to the Seller in the identical condition as it was at the time of pickup by the transport or the refund will be disallowed. Seller shall not be responsible for any damages incurred during transport or loading or unloading. INSPECTION POLICY: An inspection either at the Seller's place in Oklahoma or at the Buyer's place of delivery if using a transport, does not allow for the removal of or modifying of any part of the car, as the car must be left in the same condition after inspection as it was prior to inspection. Any such violation of this will require the Buyer to complete the purchase – similar to a “you break it you buy it” policy. LOCAL PICKUP INSPECTION - Buyer, if not using a contracted transport, is to inspect the item, prior to loading on the day of pickup – either in person or through a representative. Said inspection shall be at a mutually arranged time and is to be at the Seller’s place in Oklahoma and is to be at the time of pickup. Costs of inspection shall be those of the Buyer. Should, upon a timely inspection, the Buyer find the item unsatisfactory, the Buyer is not required to complete the purchase, but will lose his/her initial deposit. IF USING A TRANSPORT - Buyer shall have 24 hours from time of delivery drop off by his transport to inspect the item and notify Seller if item is found to be unsatisfactory. After this 24 hour period no returns are allowed and transaction shall be considered complete. Any and all costs of inspection shall be the responsibility of the Buyer. LOADING/TRANSPORT: Buyer shall hire and be responsible for all costs of loading and transport. Any damages in loading or transport shall be the responsibility of the Buyer as Seller is not responsible once either the Buyer or transport company begins loading the item. Should Buyer be returning the item, any damages in transport or reloading shall also be the responsibility of the Buyer as Seller requires that any return item be delivered back to Seller in identical condition to that of the item just prior to pick up. Any difference in condition shall void the Buyer's right to a refund. NOT INCLUDED; Any parts, other vehicles, buildings, etc. in the background of any picture of this listing are NOT included. Any parts on or within the car which are not specifically noted as being a part of the car being listed are also not included. Item is shell only and does not include any loose parts even if pictured. WHEELS & TIRES: No wheels or tires unless pictured. Tires, if pictured, should be assumed not to hold air. SELLER’S LIABILITY: Seller is to be held totally blameless. This includes, but is not limited to, circumstances, maintenance, restoration, loss of time, loss of profits, attorney fees, damages of any kind, loss of use, or other incidental damages at any time, past, present, or future due to this transaction. All questions concerning the construction, validity, and interpretation of Seller’s Terms of Sale, the dealing of the parties as regards this transaction, and the performance of the obligations imposed by this Agreement shall be governed by the laws of the State of Florida or Oklahoma as deemed prudent by the Seller. Any suit or action involving any dispute or matter arising from any interpretation of, element of, or other part of the dealing of the parties shall be only brought in the Court choice of the Seller. Further, the parties hereby agree that venue in any such court is proper, and the parties hereby consent to the exercise of personal jurisdiction by any such court with respect. INSURANCE & OTHER FEES: None provided, as item is local pickup only, either by Buyer or his/her representative. Seller is not to be held responsible for the security of the item after the close of the successful auction. Seller reserves the rights of listing per Ebay rules. Please bid accordingly.