Detail Info for: AMC : Other BARCELONA II MATADOR BARCELONA II w/ PENSKE NASCAR ROOF 1977 like an AMC GTO SS 442 GS GT LX

Transaction Info

Sold On:
01/13/2015
Price:
$ 2617.00
Condition:
Mileage:
89750
Location:
Logan, Ohio, 43138
Seller Type:
Private Seller

Vehicle Specification

Year Make Model:
1977 AMC Other
Submodel Body Type:
BARCELONA II Coupe
Engine:
AMC 360 V8
Transmission:
Automatic
VIN:
Vehicle Title:
Clear
Drive Train:
Fuel Type:
Gasoline
Standard Equipment:
Optional Equipment:

Vehicle Detail

This listing is for the outright as-is sale of a 1977 AMC MATADOR BARCELONA II As described below. Please read my feedback; many buyers say the item was better than described. I try to tell it like it is and I sometimes may be too critical. I will describe the good and bad. All this said, this car presents nicely as-is and the driveline certainly seems solid and well taken care of. I would say the car is : “ good to very good DRIVER QUALITY needing paint and resto for show quality ” But remember I am a little critical… come see it yourself in 43138 OHIO 1977 MATADOR BARCELONA II COUPE with a 360 V8 and AUTOMATIC Transmission. The car is in good to very good condition needing mostly a caring owner. The most interesting thing about this car is the connection of it’s OPERA WINDOW TO NASCAR- I have copied info found on the web below describing the AERODYNAMIC STYLING of THIS PARTICULAR MODEL—THE BARCELONA II—and the direct connection to ROGER PENSKE AND MARK DONOHUE --- Past and present racing royalty. More Matador description below racing and other information found on the web---<<< Barcelona In 1976, a "Barcelona" option offered an alternative to the personal luxury cars offered by other automakers such as the Chrysler Cordoba and Chevrolet Monte Carlo.[38] For 1977 and 1978, the "Barcelona II" coupe featured a padded Landau roof and opera windows, styling cues that were required at that time by buyers in the highly popular two-door "personal luxury" market segment. At first it was available in only one distinctive two-tone paint pattern consisting of Golden Ginger Metallic with Sand Tan. For the 1977 model year, the Barcelona came in a second color scheme: an Autumn Red Metallic on Claret Metallic combination. For its final production in 1978, the Barcelona model was also available on the four-door sedan body style. The Barcelona included numerous comfort and appearance upgrades in addition to the extensive standard equipment that came on all Matadors. The special items were: individual reclining seats in velveteen crush fabric with woven accent stripes, custom door trim panels, unique headliner, headlight bezels painted accent color, black trunk carpet, rear sway bar, GR78x15 radial whitewall tires, color-keyed slot styled wheels, body color front and rear bumpers, two-tone paint, landau padded vinyl roof, opera quarter windows with accents, dual remote control mirrors painted body color, Barcelona medallion on glove box door and fenders, 24 oz (680 g) carpeting and bumper nerfing strips. The standard roll-down rear quarter windows were converted into fixed "opera windows" with fiberglass covers over the stock openings that were finished with padded vinyl inside and out. Motor Trend magazine road tested a 1977 Barcelona II coupe and found it to be equal to all in the objective areas, as well as one of the most distinctive vehicles on the road that "makes a good deal of sense... if you're not put off by the Matador's unique lines."[39] NASCAR racing[ Penske Racing prepared factory-backed Matador hardtops and coupes were used in NASCAR stock car tracks. Drivers included Indy winner Mark Donohue and Bobby Allison, and they won a number of races. The company's effort "raised eyebrows" for many NASCAR veterans because AMC was not known for cultivating a racing image.[40] Racing pundits "initially scoffed at the notion of an AMC entry" on the circuit, but "the Matador acquired a fan following of its own."[41] Holman-Moody built a pair of 1972 2-door hardtop "Bull Fighters" for Penske as the marque's first attempt at NASCAR in 1973.[42] The Matador was one of the first oval stock car to use disc brakes.[40] After Donohue won the Western 500 with the first generation Matador hardtop with four wheel discs, other teams soon followed with the upgrade.[43] The new 1974 coupe replaced the previous "flying brick" two-door hardtop design.[44] Penske was quoted as saying that they did what they could with the old hardtop, and it did better on tracks with more curves and fewer straightaways. Donohue did not survive to drive the new aerodynamically designed fastback coupe, that many believe was aimed at NASCAR racing. The five wins for the AMC Matador are: Winston Western 500 - Riverside - Mark Donohue - January 21, 1973 Los Angeles Times 500 - Ontario - Bobby Allison - November 24, 1974 Winston Western 500 - Riverside - Bobby Allison - January 19, 1975 Rebel 500 - Darlington - Bobby Allison - April 13, 1975 Southern 500 - Darlington - Bobby Allison - September 1, 1975 Bobby Allison also won the non-points Daytona 125 qualifying race on 13 February 1975, and finished second in the Daytona 500 three days later. I'm selling my Matador Coupe - what is it worth ? The best answer is - "Whatever someone will pay for it." If you are looking for a dollar amount, I have seen low mileage, excellent condition Matador Coupe sell for as little as $10,000, and as much as $20,000. Personally, I have a hard time seeing how anything over $15,000 is justified unless it is a low mileage car in excellent condition. While well-restored examples of Matador sedans can still be purchased well under $5,000, ads have been published asking over $45,000 and more for restored coupes. I want to buy a Matador Coupe. What should I look for ? First, buy a Matador Coupe because they will highly collectible. I am realistic enough to realize that the coupe is a rare car, and will attain the collectible status. If you simply like the car, and enjoy it's looks and character, then by all means get one. They are not all that rare, although it is getting more difficult to find one in pristine condition. Look for a Coupe that is complete, with as little body damage as possible, and with as many options as possible. X, Brougham, Cassini and Barcelona/Barcelona II trim packages are your best bets, although base models can be dressed nicely, too. As with any older car, the less things missing or broken, the happier you will be. Glass, lights, rubber seals, metal trim, and interior pieces are all unique to the Coupe, so those should be a high priority. If the engine or tranny is trashed, but the car is complete and in good shape otherwise, get it. Any AMC 6 or 8 cyl. engine and transmission from 1970-1987 will fit, including the 232/258 6 cyl., and the 268/304/360/401 V8. The earlier AMC 268/290/343 and 390 V8s will also work. The Barcelona included numerous comfort and appearance upgrades in addition to the extensive stMany contemporary observers assumed the sleek styling was dictated by the need for better aerodynamics on the high-speed NASCAR ovals; Mark Donohue hadn’t called the old Matador a brick simply because he didn’t like its looks.a. The special items were: individual reclining seats in velveteen crush fabri -The Matador that your Dad gave you was most likely a 1974 Matador D/L coupe. When Penske racing tested the Matador coupe on the Nascar superspeedways they found that the big quarter window created too much aerodynamic drag. To solve this problem they had AMC create the D/L Barcelona II package, with the small “porthole” rear quarter window. They had to offer it as a production model because Nascar rules stated that 500 of a car model must be available to the public to qualify it as a stock item that could be used on the tracks. If you see a picture of Penske’s first 1974 Matador prototype it has the big rear window. When it hits it’s first race, the Winston Western 500, it had the small quarter window. When asked about the rear window treatment, Penske replied it was a “Penske window” which is what you might have heard your dad say when you got the car. despite what was said in this site, the AMC Matador won 3 races in 1975, and finished in the top 5 10 times in 17 races, despite it being the only Matador on the track. Hope this helps you. c with woven So there you go--- The Barcelona II street car was designed for eligibility to race the PENSKE "OPERA" window in mid-seventies NASCAR- (and those of you familiar with PENSKE know he has great taste/style) ------------------------------------------- SSo there you go -----------------------------------t The The car you are considering here is a very solid car needing very little to be ready to make the local cruise ins and grab the attention away from those Mustangs / Camaros / Chevelles and GTOs— If you want a super CONCOURS show car---stick this one in the shop and work it over a little— The “UH-OH” better get MAACO paint job is a twenty footer ----actually the car looks pretty darn good though. Below are some bullet points to consider – if you are bidding or have questions please email me for answers----communication is important so if you want the car contact me and lets talk. Car is in 43138 OHIO and I could rent a trailer and deliver it to you for fuel, trailer and reasonable delivery fee. Car is sold AS IS/ WHERE IS (43138 OHIO) with no refund or warranty SO PLEASE ASK ALL QUESTIONS – $1000 non refundable PAYPAL deposit due within 48 hours of winnng will hold it for up to 7 days--- full payment due by 7 full days of auction close-------------------------- Vinyl top needs replacing -- sun baked Exhaust needs new mufflers --- but has great headers—needs TLC on pipes – Solid body with minimal rust issue overall with lower wheel opening rust On one side of lower QP.. will need a fabricated section about the size of a piece of White bread— Where the body rusted from wheel spray--- There is slight bubbling at the chrome strip on hood. Floors are good with a small patch needed in trunk floor----small like size of playing card— Drivers door jamb has some HD surface rust that needs attention. (no holes jamb just needs One step treatment and smoothing/paint)The car is an A/C car BUT THERE IS NO COMPRESSOR ON OR WITH THE CAR-- Brakes need attention---they stop the car fine—front DISC BRAKE PADS grind and master cylinder sticks down… Actually it is kinda cool having a pedal that you must pull up on to get the car to roll. I have never had a Master Cyl do this….I have seen brake lines swell and affect a wheel but not had an AUTOMATIC BRAKE SYSTEM--- I’m thinking an option for people who sit in traffic a lot…. ALL GLASS IS GOOD IN CAR –there is a shallow windshield wiper scrape that may polish out----not terrible--- Carpet has been replaced but needs to be installed better with clue or two sided tape— Seats have been recovered in quilted pattern matching material—in fair to good shape---I say fair because of a few ciggy ash burns--- Back seat looks great----actually front seat is fine for a driver…. FOR THE AGE THIS CAR IS IN GREAT SHAPE Not perfect but a great head turner as is. Drive it or restore it --- SO— Needs Brake and Exhaust work and has some isolated rust concerns but NOT A TERRIBLY or even BADLY RUSTED CAR— The MAACO paint job looks good as is --- car has a few Nicks scratches but looks great overall--- Lets talk / lets rock and figure out how to get your car to you!!! BUYER RESPONSIBLE FOR DELIVERY COSTS pick up in 43138 THIS CAR IS FOR SALE AND OFFERED FOR TRADE CURRENTLY IN OTHER WEB LOCATIONS –SELLER MAY REMOVE LISTING IF SOLD OR TRADED ELSEWHERE— TELL ME IF YOU ARE SERIOUSLY INTERESTED SO THAT I DO NOT ACCEPT TRADE OFFERS I HAVE COMING IN. Remember selling AS-IS so please ask all questions and any pics you need. On Jan-06-15 at 13:00:31 PST, seller added the following information: The trim rings are missing . The car has a NICE EDELBROCK 4 BBL CARB and ALUMINUM INTAKE UPGRADE as well as a NICE SET OF HEDMAN HEADERS. The car has not been restored so things like weatherstrip and so on should be replaced. Lights and signals etc work. Car needs a go over to drive but oil has been recently changed. As mentioned brakes work but need pads and master cyl--I have not pulled front wheels but I would imagine Rotors need inspection and repair as necessary - tailpipes are good and solid... replaced --but look squirrelly to me... The exhaust and brakes are the major fixes and they both have potential-- the brakes work good stopping the car now... and the headers are nice... THIS CAR IS SPECIAL - YOU WILL LOVE IT On Jan-08-15 at 06:14:15 PST, seller added the following information: more from the web>> – Total production of ALL 1977 Matador Coupes was slightly over 6,000! – Very few Barcelonas were produced and I assume not many still exist today – When is the last time you have seen a 1977 Matador Barcelona II? The overall condition as well as the miles and content of this very rare AMC make it an investment that you can enjoy for years!On Jan-08-15 at 06:28:07 PST, seller added the following information: this was found on web---- not verified --Vehicle Comments1977 A.M.C. MAGNIFICENT RESTORED CONDITION THRU OUT. THIS CAR IS NOT JUST A ANOTHER MATADOR, BUT IS A VERY SPECIAL VERY RARE BARCELONA EDITION, OF WHICH ONLY 97 WERE PRODUCED. THE BARCELONA WAS UNIQUE IN THE RESPECT OF ITS UNUSUAL 2 TONE COLOR SCHEME, WHICH WAS CARRIED OVER INTO THE BEAUTIFUL PLUSH INTERIOR AS WELL AS EVEN, THE WHEELS WERE 2 TONE ENHANCED. PLUS WITH ITS LONG PADDED VINYL 1/2 TOP IT IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL CARS EVER MADE. IT FEATURES A 360 V8 ENGINE, AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION, AIR CONDITIONING, POWER STEERING,POWER BRAKES, TILT WHEEL, REMOTE MIRRORS, AM-FM STERIO SYSTEM AND MUCH MORE.On Jan-08-15 at 09:00:54 PST, seller added the following information: THESE CARS LOOK FANTASTIC WITH THE BUMPERS PULLED OFF-- if ebay allows the link below go there and take a look at how custom a matador is simply by pulling the bumpers off--- if link is not there you can GOOGLE / IMAGES/ MATADOR COUPE -- https://www.google.com/search?q=matador+coupe&biw=1449&bih=633&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=oLauVI6pN4j6yASD_4KQDg&sqi=2&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&dpr=0.9On Jan-09-15 at 09:57:21 PST, seller added the following information: There is a great article about MATADORS HERE>>> http://www.gatsbyonline.com/main.aspx?page=text&id=188&cat=auto you will notice in the web article this exact car was used as a photo example. If it is good enough for GATSBY --you should like this one too!!!! ---Spend a little time on the web researching these Barcelonas--- some say they helped kill AMC ---I don't believe that but AMC did "OUTSOURCE" the roof insert so the small window could be run in NASCAR---( there is a fiberglass cap under the vinyl so it looks "PUFFY" ) AMC lost money on every Barcelona --- I can't seem to find an actual breakdown of matador / Barcelona numbers-- one reference is 97 but they were also supposed to be 500 built to run nascar... getting to be a long time ago when there was a Rambler running nascar!!!! On Jan-11-15 at 08:25:36 PST, seller added the following information: Thank you for considering this great car. Here is your EASY project to have ready for spring cruising in 2015!! Take advantage of the Saudi Market flood and enjoy the roads with this reasonably priced gasoline. AMERICA IS GREAT- DRIVE AMERICAN - AMC MEANS AMERICAN!!! THANKS AGAIN AND GREAT LUCK ON YOUR BIDDING seller will assist buyer in all shipping needs / or can seller be hired for a fee to deliver to sites east of rocky mountains On Jan-12-15 at 06:41:08 PST, seller added the following information: PLEASE READ THIS: I was just informed by the Webmaster/owner of www.matadorcoupe.com that the info I copied here >> http://www.gatsbyonline.com/main.aspx?page=text&id=188&cat=auto regarding the ESTIMATED VALUES of MATADORS was MATADORCOUPE'S INFORMATION--- that had been changed to higher numbers. looks like Gatsby changed MatadorCoupe's numbers---- I don't know why there is a discrepancy---perhaps GATSBY "UPDATED" coupes numbers because COUPE was last updated in '08-- or maybe GATSBY had MATADORS TO SELL?????!!! so I just thought buyers needed to know this. ANYWAY This car is priceless....OKAY!!!!! so bid/bid/bid Thanks to www.matadorcoupe.com for their rude, accusatory input. On Jan-12-15 at 06:49:36 PST, seller added the following information: THIS MATADOR LISTING CLOSES TUESDAY the 13th at about 12:30 (afternoon). EASTERN TIME On Jan-12-15 at 16:16:06 PST, seller added the following information: www.matadorcoupe.com has much info on matadors and is a great website ------ "the coupe coop" and the owner turns out to be a good guy we are on the same page now .

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