Detail Info for: Chevrolet : Camaro Super Sport Rally Sport 1967 Camaro SS RS Convertible 396-325 HP (Pace Setter) Protect o plate original

Transaction Info

Sold On:
10/13/2013
Price:
$ 45100.00
Condition:
Mileage:
31000
Location:
Sacramento, California, 95835
Seller Type:

Vehicle Specification

Year Make Model:
1967 Chevrolet Camaro
Submodel Body Type:
Super Sport Rally Sport Convertible
Engine:
396
Transmission:
Turbo 400 Auto
VIN:
124677N155815
Vehicle Title:
Clear
Drive Train:
Fuel Type:
Standard Equipment:
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Vehicle Detail

1967 Camaro SS/RS 396-325 HP Convertible (Pace Setter)Please see all detailed picture for exact details, spec's and condition of this 1967 Camaro you are bidding on. This Camaro is almost 50 years old and I have had the pleasure of owning it for the past 4 years. The Camaro is in the exact same condition it was in when I purchased the card, however I did add the radial red line tires for a smoother ride. Since I have owned the Camaro it has been 100% garaged and I have only driven it approximately 500 or less miles. VERY RARE!! COMPLETE HIGHLY DETAILED FRAME OFF RESTORATION!! GREAT INVESTMENT MUSEUM QUALITY CAR!! 1967 CAMARO CONVERTIBLE SS/RS 396 PACE SETTER NUMBERS MATCHING WITH PROTECT-O-PLATE!! See pictures DELIVERED NEW IN INDIANAPOLIS, INDIANA 396/325HP TURBO 400 AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION 12 BOLT REAR POWER DISC BRAKES FACTORY TACH CONSOLE W/ GAUGES Here is one of the most sought after cars in Camaro history, Up for auction is a 1967 Camaro SS/RS 396 Convertable Pace Setter that has had a highly detailed to factory specs frame off restoration. This car still offers its matching number drive train that was also completely rebuilt to factory specs at the time of restoration and has had less than 1500 miles placed on it since. Everything on this vehicle is in proper working and the Camaro runs perfect. The engine and transmission are in perfect running order. All lights wipers, horn, signals etc. work as designed and the head light doors open and shut quickly as they should. The car hits the street 110% and has NO mechanical problems! The car does have a recently noticed one small transmission fluid drip at the spedo cable attachment area that I have not yet fixed and the orig. AM radio works but is not very loud. The Paint is base/coat clear/coat that is very slick and straight, The body is very solid very straight and shows no signs of rust and everything fits and lines up great and doors open and shut nicely. The engine compartment and undercarriage is immaculate and highly detailed throughout with all of the factory markings, tags etc.. This car is new from front to back & top to bottom...New fuel tank, lines, hoses, brakes, rotors, calipers, brake lines, hoses, filters, gaskets, bushings, lights, interior, etc. etc!!!! The interior is absolutely gorgeous and has also been restored throughout with all NEW door panels, seat covers, carpet, dash pad, wood wheel, conv. top & (boot not pictured) etc. The console and seat belts are original to the car but are in excellent condition. All of the gauges work and lite up bright and are crystal clear. TRIM TAG READS...05 D = MAY 4TH WEEK R = BRIGHT BLUE INTERIOR 67- 12667 = CONVERTIBLE, DELUXE INTERIOR NOR 158332 = NORWOOD PLANT FISHER BODY732-Z = BRIGHT BLUE CUSTOM SEATS CC1 = ERMINE WHITE WITH WHITE TOP W = TINTED WINDSHIELD 2G = CONSOLE 3L = RALLEY SPORT 4N = 396/325HP 5Y = DELUXE SEATBELTS ********************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************** PROTECT-O-PLATE READS........R Bright Blue C1 Ermine White 124677N155815 R Conv. V8, 67, Norwood Seq. VIN, Rochester carb.TO515MY Tonawanda, May 15th, 396/325hp with Turbo Hydramatic M40 PI0425G 3.55 posi, Apr 25th, Chev. Gear and Axel Y May 1969 67C462 67,Turbo hyd. M40 2 J50 power brakes 3 am Radio 5 F41/J52 Spec. supp with Disc BrakesTHOMAS GREEN Orig. Owner4243 DUBARRY RD. Orig Owners addressINDIANAPOLIS, IND. 462266-9-67 Date purchased: June 9th 1967********************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************* Casting NumbersVin # = 124677N155815Block = 3902406 Date: C 10 7 Mar 10th 1967 CORRECTEngine Stamp # = TO515MY Ton May 15th 396/325 hp Turbohydramatic CORRECT Engine Stamp Vin # = 7N15581 1967 Norwood vin # match CORRECTIntake Man. = 3883948 Date: CORRECTCarb. = 7027200 Date : CORRECT Trans M40 = Turbo Hydramatic M40 CORRECTExhaust Man. = (L) 3909879 (R) 3916178 CORRECTRear end 12 bolt = 3894860N CORRECTAXEL STAMP = P10425G CORRECTStarter = 1108787 AC replacememtWater Pump = ReplacementWater Pump Pully = CORRECTPower Brake Booster = Delco CORRECT To ensure there is no misunderstanding to what this Camaro was factory dealer born with here are some further details. According to the trim tag and protec-O-plate this car was ordered as a 1967 Camaro Convertable, SS/RS 396 - 325 hp, Turbo 400, White paint with Blue Deluxe interior. To be clear this is a 1967 Pace setter car, not a 1967 Pace car.In 1967 Camaro Pace setter cars were special ordered by the Chevy dealerships to match the exact options of the 1967 Camaro Pace Car. The dealerships ordered these cars (approximately 200 to 250 nationwide were ordered) as 1967 Camaro convertibles with the SS /RS option 396/325 engines, Turbo 400 transmissions, White paint and Blue deluxe interior. The Pace car door logo's and blue front rally sport front stripe was then ordered by the dealership and applied to the car. Thus the 1967 Camaro Pace Setter cars were born. Purchasing Info: This Camaro has been describe to the best of my ability, Please use all pictures for your primary and exact description of this Camaro. Please also feel free to come and expect the Camaro before bidding. This Camaro is almost 50 years old and is being sold in "AS IS CONDITION" with no waranty. A Paypal non refundable deposit will be required of the winning bidder within 48 hours of the auctions end. Winning bidder with need to make the remaining winning bid price payment in cash or a bank to bank wire transfer (I bank with Wells Fargo or B of A) with 7 days of the auctions ending time and before the Camaro will be released for pick up or delivery. Shipping arrangements will be the responsibility of the winning bidder and at the winning bidders expense. The Camaro is located in Sacramento Ca 95835. I would be happy to help with this process in any way that I can. I have had several vehicles shipped to California over the years, the cost on average is $1,000 to $1,500 for a closed container shipment depending on what company you use and where you are shipping the vehicle too. Please call me with any questions 1-916-275-2897 Please contact me with any questions before bidding and ensure if you bid and win the auction you are able to complete the transaction. As per Ebay bidding policy, by bidding on this item you are entering into a purchasing contract. In summary Please be fair to other bidders and myself and only bid if you intent on completing the purchase. Thanks Kevin Roberson Sacramento CA 95835 Below is a little history on the Pace Cars, taken from Camaro untold Secrets...... If you read almost any book or article on the 1967 Pace Car, you will usually see the number of cars quoted as 103. I personally believe that there were at least 200 built, and maybe over 600 more built, although I have not heard of anyone else with this opinion. Let me set out my reasoning for you and let's see if we can add up the cars. The number of Camaros used at Indy comes from a GM interoffice memo detailing the specifications for the vehicles to be used at the race. Let's add up the numbers. First we have the 500 Festival Committee Vehicles, of which 43 are Camaros, numbers 1-43. The Speedway Vehicles include 10 Camaros, numbers 49-58, and 3 actual Pace Cars, numbers 78-80. Many sources will give the number of actual Pace Cars as 2, but there were 3 - number 78, number 79, and number 80. They were identically prepared, with one designated to pace the race, one for backup, and the third, with a show quality finish, to be presented to the winner. Then we have the 40 "Brass Hat" cars, of which 25 were Camaros. This equals 81 Camaro Pace Cars and replicas that were used at Indianapolis. These cars were later sold through Indianapolis dealerships as used cars. Some were purchased by the person the car had been assigned to during the month at Indy for the regular GM Corporate discount price. After the race was over, many of our friends in the Great White North learned of the Pace Car Replicas and weren't happy to have been excluded from the promotion, and they apparently knew who to complain to. Chevy ordered up 21 more cars under ordering code 80055, eleven 396-325HP Turbo 400's and ten 350 Powerglides. These were distributed to Canadian dealers who remain unknown. This makes 102 cars total. A.J. Foyt won the '67 Indy 500, but he turned down the car because it didn't have air conditioning or a power top. So Chevrolet decided to build another car for A.J., and it was produced in the same run of cars as the special Canadian-built cars. Because they were all produced together, they all got the special clear coat paint and the 0-1 code. In addition, they were all built after the race, date code 06C. This brings our total to 103. This number is what is usually quoted as the total number of 1967 Pace Cars, because this number can be verified (more or less) from Chevrolet memos. Okay, so if this number can be verified, why does every source say it is approximate? Once we start digging further, and making guesses as to the number of additional cars, it's all pretty much speculation - and the numbers point to many more cars, not less. First of all, let's look at the build dates. The U.S. Camaro Club has published articles that say all Pace Cars were built between 03C and 04D, except for the Canadian Pace Cars built 06C. John Hooper, in the 1967-68 Camaro Reference Book, gives the dates as 03C to 06B, and the Canadian cars also as 06C. Other sources give pretty much the same dates. (The USCC gives 06D in one article, but it's obviously a typo.) The Chevrolet memo setting out the specifications for the cars set the deadline for the Indy cars as March 30, with formal delivery on April 1. Therefore, all 81 Camaros used at Indy were built prior to the end of March, 03D. The Canadian vehicles were built the third week of June, 06C, so no matter which build dates you use they all point to some cars being built after 03D, either through April, 04D, or June, 06B. The question is, how many? John Hooper breaks down the build dates by assembly plant. He indicates that Norwood built pace cars from 04A to 06B, and Van Nuys built them from 04A to 05D. According to Hooper, all L181A coded Los Angeles cars were built during this period, which means none of them could have been used at Indy. So where did these extra cars go? Chevrolet ran a special "Pacesetter" campaign to mark the selection of the Camaro for Indy. Some sources say this only included incentives on options, and not Pace Car replicas. The text of the news release doesn't really make this clear. It reads as follows: For Release: IMMEDIATELY (4878) "DETROIT -- Chevrolet and its dealers are launching a nationwide Camaro Pacesetter sales campaign this month to mark the selection of the Camaro as pace car for this year's Indianapolis 500 race on Memorial Day. "The campaign, running through June, will feature specially equipped Camaros and Fleetside pickup trucks at special savings. There will be special advertising support in the various media, including large newspaper ads, network television and radio plus spot radio and TV and dealer merchandising and promotional material. "During the Pacesetter event, Camaro buyers can get the special hood stripe and floor-mounted shift for three-speed transmission at no extra cost with special savings also available on Powerglide automatic transmission, power steering and power brakes. "Also offered is a half-ton Fleetside pickup truck with special savings when equipped with some of the most popular options and accessories. These include custom apperance items, pushbutton radio, a larger capacity six-cylinder engine and heavy-duty suspension. "4 -- 10 -- 67" This memo is not very clear. It does give incentives on options which you could order on your Camaro, but it also implies that there were "specially equipped" Camaros also at the dealer. These would have been the Pace Car replicas. According to John Hooper, dealers received these cars as a special sales promotion and they were all built at Los Angeles. However, any Norwood production after 03D would have to be included in the promotion. When Chevy built the Z10 Pace Car Coupe as a special regional promotion in 1969, it is believed they built between 200 and 300 at Norwood. You would expect Chevy to build more cars for a nationwide promotion, but then again, they didn't try to sell as many '67's either. You can make a good case for at least 100 extra pace cars from this alone. Since Chevy built all these cars for promotion, as opposed to letting the customer order them as they did in 1969, it would be reasonable to assume that they built these cars according to some kind of a schedule to meet deadlines and shipping dates. If Chevrolet built 81 cars in Norwood during the last two weeks of March - about 40 per week - and 22 cars in Los Angeles during the third week of June, then mightn't they have also averaged at least 20 cars per week through April (04D) for an extra 80 cars? And maybe even an additional six weeks' production through the second week of June (06B) for another 120 cars? That would equal around 200 cars in addition to the 103, making 303 total. And this ignores the fact that two assembly plants were running, and Norwood produced over twice as many cars as Los Angeles did. If John Hooper's facts are correct, then Norwood produced pace cars for the 10 weeks from 04A to 06B - 400 cars at 40 cars per week - and Los Angeles for the 8 weeks from 04A to 05D - 160 cars at 20 cars per week - then we are looking at 560 extra cars, plus the 81 Indy cars built in March and the 21 Canadian cars and the one for A.J. Foyt built in June, for a total of 663! That's a long way from 103. Thanks to the U.S. Camaro Club, there is one more indicator to look at. The USCC has a registry for Camaros, which amounts to a large database of information. From this they can extrapolate statistical data on these cars. As of July, 1992, in their special Pace Car issue of the magazine, they had 98 pace cars registered. What are the odds on having virtually every single Pace Car replica, 98 out of 103, still around? Not only are they in existence, but also owned by members of the USCC, and also registered with the USCC! I'd say it's highly unlikely. There were 3,675 Pace Car Replicas sold in 1969, not counting the actual Indy cars and the Z10's, yet the USCC had only 103 registered in 1992 - roughly 2.5% of all pace cars made. It's not likely that they would get over 95% of the '67's and only 2.5% of the '69's. If you take the build date end of 04D, for an extra 80 cars, that's still 53% of the total, still very high. A build date end of 06B, for an extra 200 cars total, would still leave around 32% of the cars still around and on the registry, which still seems high. The highest estimate, 663 cars total, would leave 14%. This is starting to sound a lot more realistic. Finally, of the 98 cars registered, only 8 were built in March, so only 8 of these 98 could be part of the 81 Indy cars. That leaves 90 cars which couldn't have been used at Indy. They have all 21 Canadian cars registered, so that is at least 69 extra cars if they have every one in existence registered! So there is the dilemma. My best guess is about 200 - 400 cars total, but my opinion isn't cast in stone. I spoke with Matt Murphy of SLP Engineering at the US Camaro Club Nationals this July. He has gathered a lot of information about the 1967 Pace Cars, and his father worked at Dan Young Chevrolet in Indianapolis where the actual festival cars were prepared. He shed some light on many questions which puzzled me, and he agrees that the number of cars and replicas is probably over 350. To begin with, although the deadline for delivery of the Festival cars was April 1, the cars continued to be delivered through May 1, 1967. He also gives the total number of Festival cars used at Indy as 110 because more Camaros were being assigned to VIPs and they needed more than the original number. If you add these 110 cars with the 21 Canadian cars we get 131. There were also "dealer cars," the Pace Car Replicas I speculated as being at the dealer during the Pacesetter sale. According to Matt, the way the system worked was that the people in charge of these promotions would get on the phone to their best dealers and let them know there was a special promotion coming. In this case, the dealers were informed of the Pace Car Replicas and given a chance to order them during the winter of '67. The ratio of Dealer cars to Festival cars is about 2:1, so this points to about 220 Dealer cars, for a total of around 330. Once the Pacesetter campaign was underway many dealers tried to order more cars, and many dealers who hadn't ordered any tried to get a few. The factory, however, was not interested in building any more cars, so the dealers had to come up with their own. They ordered white SS/RS 396 and 350 convertibles with blue tops and stripe delete. Then they painted the blue nose stripe at the dealership and ordered the door decals through their parts departments. There are also dealers who skipped the stripe delete option and just repainted the nose stripe. These would be considered genuine Pace Car Replicas, since the only changes made by the dealer were the color of the nose stripe and the decals, unlike the 69 cars, where there was a factory x-code on the trim tag. On Oct-06-13 at 19:04:04 PDT, seller added the following information: Please no zero or less than 10 feedback bidders. If you have less than 10 recent feedbacks please contact me first before bidding. I want all bidders to be legit bidders to be fair to everyone involved in the bidding. Thanks Kevin Roberson 1-916-275-2897On Oct-11-13 at 18:42:39 PDT, seller added the following information: Update: I have had over 30 people email me asking what I have the reserve set at. To be fair to all bidders I set the reserve at a low $45,000. It currently is only $5,000 short of someone being the new owner of this nice 67 Camaro. Thanks Kevin

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