1966 Triumph Other

TR4A Convertible

hepolite cylinder/liners overbore and balanced

Electric Overdrive in 2nd, 3rd, 4th

CT 60551-L0

Clear

Note on photographs: Many photos are posted in Google Picasa. Please click on the url links below to see the full compliment of photos by category (there are 11 categories): https://picasaweb.google.com/kinobaby/TR4AExterior# https://picasaweb.google.com/kinobaby/TR4AInterior# https://picasaweb.google.com/kinobaby/TR4AEngineBay# https://picasaweb.google.com/kinobaby/TR4ABoot# https://picasaweb.google.com/kinobaby/TR4AUndercarriage# https://picasaweb.google.com/kinobaby/TR4ATires_wheels# https://picasaweb.google.com/kinobaby/TR4AMechanical# https://picasaweb.google.com/kinobaby/TR4ALamps_badges# https://picasaweb.google.com/kinobaby/TR4ACertificates_tag# https://picasaweb.google.com/kinobaby/TR4AFaults# https://picasaweb.google.com/kinobaby/TR4ASpares# -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- OWNERSHIP: I have owned the car for 13 years, using it for local drives. I have added enhancements, and performed the maintenance. The restoration was commissioned by the former owner, who showed it and won several concourse competitions. REASON FOR SALE: Having recently retired, I have decided to pare down my stable of cars and move permanently from Florida to my mountain home in North Carolina. I would rather not expose the car to salt or brine dusted roads. PRE-SALE MAITENANCE: In preparing the TR4 for sale, I have done the following: o Flushed and replaced all of the fluids and filters: Kendall Racing 30wt Oil with ZDDD additive (contains zinc and phosphorous for brass components), coolant (7yr, long life), brake, clutch (silicone fluids), transmission/overdrive (Redline MT90 gear oil). Note: The hydraulics have been maintained with DOT5 silicone fluid since restoration when all of the hydraulic lines (steel and rubber) were replaced with new ones. o New period-correct cloth covered radiator hoses. o New generator/water pump fan belt (the premium one vs. the lesser ones available) o New Fuel Filter (I use two separate filters) o Tune Up: carburetors, spark plugs, distributor cap/rotor, points, condenser o New tires and valve stems: Vredestien Sprint Classic 185HR15 (tubeless, made in Holland). These are the best, high speed tires in the correct size and speed rating available today. The original tires fitted upon delivery (see Heritage Certificate) were Michelin X, but these are now manufactured by someone else using the Michelin molds. Note: the XZX tires on the car upon restoration were perfect but old and not to be trusted at the high speeds this car can achieve (100+ mph). o New battery in black (period-correct: there are no manufacturer makings on the front case, only the date stamp on top). New absorbent mat in battery tray. o New heater valve (the heater was balky) and new driver door window regulator (it would bind) o New PVC rubber diaphragm (maintenance item) o Complete New Brake and Clutch Systems: Note: there was slight leak in one of the rear cylinders and both master cylinder shafts showed some weeping of fluid. These faults could have remained hidden (they were miniscule leaks and the systems worked fine) from a prospective buyer by wiping the fluid off and topping off the masters. In the interest of delivering a perfectly sound car I decided to overhaul the entire brake and clutch systems (cylinders, pads, linings, etc.). Note: the rubber brake lines showed external cracks (they had aged), so they were replaced with stainless steel lines (all 4 corners) wrapped in black nylon sheathes. RESTORATION FACTS: The car received a full frame-off restoration two years before I bought it. Every piece of rubber and gasket material was replaced. Stainless steel brake lines were added (the hard lines in SS and rubber lines to the wheel hubs) New metal fuel lines New lacquered wood dash New dash board control knobs with new control cables New Moto-Lita steering wheel in wood with brass rivets Every bolt and screw was replaced with new ones (there are no rusty items anywhere). All gauges were removed, “de-dusted”, and calibrated New Wool carpeting throughout in light blue and Triumph rubber mats protect the foot-well carpets New leather seats in Royal blue with white piping New and re-sleeved, original master cylinders (brake/clutch) and clutch slave. Front sway bar New Spax adjustable shocks Frame & Suspension were epoxy primed and Imron painted Transmission was rebuilt (seals, synchronizers) All new clutch components and the flywheel was re-surfaced Overdrive was rebuilt (seals, clutch, electrics) Engine was rebuilt (acid dip, new cam, crank turned and balanced, mild overbore with new Hepolite liners and oversized pistons with new rings, new timing gear, chain, valves, springs, guides, copper head gasket. Carburetors rebuilt. New period-correct radiator shroud Complete Standard Triumph tool set in boot. New 15 inch, 90 spoke Dayton stainless steel, wire wheels (60 spoke originally delivered) EXTRAS INCLUDED: The 4 Michelin XZX tires (boxed), which were on the car for shows. They are virtually new but old as far as date code. They are included in the sale if you choose to show the car in concourse competition (not recommended for highway travel). Stanpart accessory chrome luggage rack Stanpart full tonneau cover in blue (matches the leather seat color) Approximately $2,500 spare parts: maintenance, replacement, and accessory spares (new and NOS) Complete, new convertible top and assembly (wrapped in cellophane) with boot cover - if you choose to configure the car as a pure convertible without the Surrey Top. Spare generator New R/L window glass (boxed) Original Standard Triumph workshop manual (ring binder) and Leycock de Normanville Overdrive Manual Original Triumph AM radio (as delivered) Original AM/FM, period-correct radio (as installed, but changed to a modern radio, which has classic look). British Trust Heritage Certificate of the original car as delivered with options. ENHANCEMENTS: Badge Bar with an original (not a reproduction) British Sports Car Club badge. The other badge in the photos, a Brooklands reproduction, is not included. Stromberg decals on carburetor air cleaners. Battery on/off switch with original tag Triumph key fob Wood Triumph shift knob: an accessory, which looks right Seat belts were added (period-correct lap belts). It was legal for me to use the car without them under pre 1967 safety regulations, but the new owner (and likely the wife) may feel more secure with them in place. Radio: Classic look in black with up-to-date electronics. It includes CD slot and AUX port (classic face flips down to access the modern components). Small, powerful stereo speakers were installed and are tucked away high and unseen in the driver/passenger foot wells (concourse judges are not likely to see them). Note: these automobiles were delivered with a single speaker behind the center stack. Dual Exhaust: the entire exhaust system has been ceramic coated (beginning with the exhaust header, down pipe, mid pipes, mufflers, and finishing at the stainless, 12 inch tips) Note: The system has separate mufflers and pipes, not a simple split dual system off of a central muffler.. IMPRESSIONS: The car performs nicely at interstate speeds on overdrive and surpasses 90 mph with ease (overdrive off/on) for passing slower traffic. Beautiful - the lines of the Michelotti designed body, the complimentary blue colors of the exterior/interior, and the curved shape of Surrey Top lend themselves to eye catching beauty. The car sounds magnificent - there are nice mechanical sounds from the engine and transmission when shifting and the exhaust note is lively yet not obtrusive. It can be made to burble when downshifting. The car was little used; at times idle for months (under cover in my garage), so a total refresh was done. It is perfect to enjoy immediately without hidden repair issues coming up. This car is an investment, which beats the equity markets, and is about equal to real estate in appreciation. Although, it is much more fun to own and there is no “bubble” downside. DISCLAIMER: There are three imperfections in the paint (shown in photos): top of RR fender and side LR fender (pinpoint rust appeared approximately 10 years ago), and the back of RR fender has paint imperfection. The restoration shop believes this was from poor preparation of the underlayment in these areas. Note: I was quoted $1k per panel this past week by a professional restoration shop in St. Petersburg, Florida to repair and blend paint along the sides. The owner advised me to leave it alone since this has taken many years to appear. As the buyer may want to show the car in competition, I have adjusted the reserve price down by $3k to more than cover the cost. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ PRODUCTION DATA (British Motor Industry Heritage Trust), Certificate number: 96/2994: TRIUMPH TR4A Chassis number: CT/60551-LO Engine number: CT/60711-E Body number: 60713/CT Gearbox number: CC120323 Overdrive number: 22/1753/001049 Specification: LHD, North America Export Colour, Exterior: Wedgewood Blue Trim: Midnight Blue (leather) Hood (top): White Date Built: 28 September 1965 Date Dispatched: 07 October 1965 Destination: Standard Triumph Motor Company Inc., Detroit, U.S.A Details of Equipment: 60 spoke wire wheels Overdrive Beam rear axel Heater Windscreen washer White tonneau cover 165-15 Michelin X tyres On Mar-14-14 at 07:59:21 PDT, seller added the following information: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Update (question/answer): Dear schwaco, Good morning, Would you accept $20,000 for your TR4. If yes, I am interested in purchasing. My wife,s parents live in Melbourne and could easily pick the car up until I can get down to bring the car home to NY. Please let me know Sincerely dalmat22 Hello dalmat22, $20k is the amount to open the aucton; the car is not listed as a "buy it now" item. To better understand the market, please consider looking over the prices antique British automobiles are selling for in the "auction houses". For example look at the results of the Amelia Island auction this past weekend:, a run-of the-mill 1967 MGB ( http://www.goodingco.com/vehicle/1967-mgb/) sold for $37,400 and a nice 1967 Healy BJ8 (http://www.goodingco.com/vehicle/1967-austin-healey-3000-mk-iii-bj8-4/) sold for a whopping $89,100. Note: I do not expect the same results from a 10 day online eBay auction as a same-day, live auction where emotion and immediate bidding competition carries the day. If I had had the foresight to drive my TR4A a couple of hours to Jacksonville for that auction. I expect my TR4A would have sold midway between these two examples. Furthermore, one-day auction cars may look good in brochures, but it is unknown if those cars are truly as roadworthy as mine is. Additionally, my car comes with many. valuable spare parts, which can be used to keep the car in service, litterally, forever, or sold for a handsome profit. My car is further distinguished as a rare Surrey Top model (well before Porsche or any other manufacturer thought to offer similar Targa-type options). As is, I missed the Florida auctions this year because I had not completed the "refresh" on my car in time for those events - my fault in letting the car sit too long and then going overboard in keeping the car mechanically perfect to my standards. I have decided to list on eBay rather wait until next March for the Amelia, West Palm, or the Kissimmee auctions. Thank you, Joaquin -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Update (question/answer): Dear Schwaco, Is there a hard panel for the Surrey top, or just the soft one? Is the Surrey an original one from Triumph, or after market? Thanks, 1ecrumpetcollector Hello 1ecrumpetcollector The Surrey Top cover is a removable soft top panel in white, which can be stored while underway. There is no hard panel in aluminum or fiberglass. The Surrey Top is a Triumph original item with the last, new old stock glass available anywhere 13 years ago (only plexiglas or used glass, likely scratched after many years of use by multiple owners. It can be removed if you want to sell it for $3-$5k and use the full, convertible, fold down top, which is also included in the sale. Regards, Schwaco On Mar-17-14 at 14:09:20 PDT, seller added the following information: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Update (question/answer): Question: Dear Schwaco, Hi- My father-in-law is down near Sarasota and would like to drive over to check out the TR4. He doesn't have an ebay account, so I'm reaching out to you in his behalf. Can you send me your email address so he can reach out to you directly - philsfan13 Answer: Sorry philsfan13, I value my privacy and do not wish to have folks stop by to visit or "kick tires". Please do not be offended, but if that is the route I wanted to take, I would have listed the car, the accessories, and the spares for a firm price in Classic AutoTrader or Hemmings. My car is accurately described in 1.931 words and 246 photographs. The goal was to leave no doubt about the condition of this TR4A. If you need more information, please let me know specifically what you want to know or see. and I will make every sincere effort to comply with your requests. Note1: Last month via eBay I sold another car I've had for many years; 2001 S54 BMW MCoupe. The high bidder was completely satisfied that the car was represented accurately (see his feedback for confirmation). If you are the high bidder and make the deposit, please stop by if you want to visit and drive the car. Note2: I will update the description to include this correspondence, expecting that it may help other prospective bidders with the same questions. Rest assured that I will delete all personal information outside of eBay upon posting our communication. Thank you, Joaquin (Schwaco)On Mar-18-14 at 10:07:38 PDT, seller added the following information: Update (question/answer): Question: Dear Schwaco, what was the name of the shop in St. Pete that reviewed the paint issues? - tom6742 Answer: I was hesitant to make known the restoration shop in St. Petersburg, FL. as I didn’t want the owner to be overwhelmed with calls about my car unless the person is a serious buyer, i.e., a bidder. Regardless, I spoke with Glenn of Glenns MG & British Car Repair this morning asking if it was OK for me to provide his contact information. He OK'd it so feel free to confirm my description. I visited him two weeks ago. He is a good guy with an excellent shop. I took his advice to not worry about the pinpoint rust, which appeared years ago. With that advice in mind, I decided to list the car now and not seek quotes at this time. There are several high-end shops in Tampa that do excellent work on high-line cars, i.e., Gene Perez (although his shop works exclusively on late model MB, Porsche, etc., I've know him for years and trust he would allow his shop to work on my old car if I asked the favor). Some other premier body shops in this area are: Frank Salemi (we graduated from the same High School a year apart), Town & Country Body Shop, and Mirek's European Auto in Oldsmar FL. My reasoning is that if the car did not sell well on eBay, I would make the car cosmetically perfect and list for a much more than the auction reserve. This would be in the popular antique car sales sites and Triumph Clubs, e.g., Triumph Register of America, Vintage Triumph Register (incidentally, this is were I responded to the ad from the original seller 13 years ago.), International Triumph TR Registry, etc.. Furthermore, if the car did not sell well enough using fixed price approach, I will make the car available with one of the "auction houses" (Gooding, RM, etc.) in Florida next spring. That's my plan. Thanks, Joaquin