Detail Info for: Chevrolet : Camaro 1967 CAMARO RS LS1 6-SPEED PRO TOURING RACE TRACK 1967 CAMARO RS LS1 6-SPEED PRO TOURING RACE TRACK DAY HPDE READY **NO RESERVE**

Transaction Info

Sold On:
10/16/2012
Price:
$ 20000.00
Condition:
Mileage:
32640
Location:
Springfield, Ohio, 45503
Seller Type:

Vehicle Specification

Year Make Model:
1967 Chevrolet Camaro
Submodel Body Type:
1967 CAMARO RS LS1 6-SPEED PRO TOURING RACE TRACK Coupe
Engine:
LS1
Transmission:
6-SPEED MANUAL
VIN:
Vehicle Title:
Clear
Drive Train:
Fuel Type:
Standard Equipment:
Optional Equipment:

Vehicle Detail

Well, I was caught up in a wreck in my race car at the NASA Championships a few weeks ago, so I've decided to sell one toy to repair another. This is a REAL 1967 Camaro RS coupe that has been built into a TRACK READY Pro-Touring beast that you can drive to the track, run hot laps all day, and drive back home with the cruise control set. This car runs on pump gas and cruises down the highway as easily as it manages the high speed sweepers on a road course like Mid Ohio. Again, this is a sorted, TRACK READY car. Lots of people throw a set of 20 inch wheels and a new crate engine in a classic and call it a Pro Touring machine. However, this car has ALL THE RIGHT GOODIES to set it apart from the run of the mill cars you've seen elsewhere on Ebay. Tens of thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours of labor have been spent with the sole purpose of giving this car the ability to run circles around "modern" sports cars at the race track -- Detroit Speed and Engineering suspension, massive BAER brakes, a Currie 9" Ford rear end, a custom aluminum driveshaft, frame ties, Wilwood master cylinder and brake bias adjuster, etc. I took the car to Forgeline in Dayton, Ohio, where they measured and custom built the set of 18x9 and 18x11 three piece racing wheels that give the Camaro it's sinister look. It is currently shod with Nitto max performance street tires, but it could really use a set of DOT track rubber to harness the power and take advantage of the Hawk racing brake pads. Please take into consideration that these tires have been used and abused at the track. Plenty of tread left, but they are worn. I've owned this car for three years, and with out a doubt it has been the most fun car to take to the track -- people love to see it, hear it and especially watch it! I'm a PCA HPDE instructor, so I've had the car to a handful of local events, and the car appeals to everyone. "Reminds me of when I was here in the early Trans Am days watching Mark Donohue battle it out with Posey, Gurney, Titus and of course Parnelli Jones". And it's a blast passing the guys in the new GT3 RS's, drifting through the corners, steering with the trottle, blasting out onto the straights in a mad dash in a 45 year old car with none of the electronic nannies that we've become accustomed to in modern day cars. It's the purest form of driving excitement that you can get. When I bought this car, my original intent was to finish the cosmetics of the car -- the hard work (mechanical and engineering) was already done, and this was the first car I'd seen under $60000 (and one of few over 60k for that matter) that had all the mechanical and suspension upgrades to make it suitable for track usage. I liked the idea of being able to finish this car to show quality to MY tastes for a heck of a lot less $$ than the cars for sale out there. To this end, I've purchased almost everything necessary to complete the interior, including new carpets, door and interior panels, sail panels, armrests and pads, headliner, package shelf and more (see photos). I have also installed all new window felts and rubber moldings. There are no rear seats, as my original intent was to install a full NASA legal cage. I also have numerous original interior and exterior parts and trim pieces (including bumpers) that will go with the car (see photos). However, those plans changed after the first track weekend at Mid Ohio. I quickly realized that I was having so much more fun in this "cosmetically challenged" car than I've had in all of the pristine cars that I'd previously driven. As with my race car, I wasn't worried about exceding my limits and damaging some custom paint or bodywork. It was more fun driving the car at the limit (my limits, not necessarily its :) ). And as you can see in one of the photos from that first weekend, some of my buddies had a riot decorating the car with sidewalk chalk from Walmart. Imagine the distractions that you eliminate when you aren't worried about scratching or denting the car. You can get practice driving in the rain when you never would in a trailer queen. So what may have become an uberexpensive car that I worried about all the time ended up being a car that I could fling around with no reservations. Excellent! Do yourself the favor and look over the 200+ photos at the photobucket links. There are numerous shots from many different angles of the body, chassis and interior -- the 24 pictures here are just too few to tell the story. But enough opinions and semantics. Listed below is a list of many of the parts installed by the builder that I received when I purchased the car: Roughly 3000 miles on all components since car was completed. 5.7L LS1 and 6-speed from 2002 Camaro SS donor car -- 29749 miles at time of install, 32640 total miles now. Dash and cluster from donor car retained its actual mileage from day 1 2002 Camaro SS computer, complete engine and body wiring harness. No homemade, one-off aftermarket wiring issues here. Car thinks and operates as if it is still installed in 2002 donor car. Still has operable OBDII port, and you could use the factory 2002 wiring diagrams should you ever need to. Detroit Speed and Engineering (DSE) front upper/lower control arms DSE Speed kit 3 true coil over conversion mounts DSE GM 600 revalved gear box DSE subframe connectors DSE rear mini-tub kit DSE firewall fill panel Koni front and rear shocks Custom cold air intake Custom made 3 inch dual exhaust with Hooker aero chambers Hooker super comp headers Fuel Safe fuel sell Aeromotive fuel pump, regulator and filter Currie Aluminum rear axle housing with 31 spline axles and Detroit True track locker 3:50 gears Baer Track Plus rear brakes with 2 piece 13" rotors slotted and drilled (uses 88-96 corvette/early 90's camaro rear calipers) Bair Extreme Plus front 6 piston calipers with 2 piece 14" rotors slotted and drilled Autokraft custom built baffled LSx oil pan LS7 clutch Custom made LED tail lamps Corvette 3rd brake light mounted in rear spoiler (new in box spoiler included) 3" aluminum drive shaft Upper and lower aluminum closeout panels -- enhanced aero and cooling Electric life front and rear power windows LS6 intake PP stage 2 heads (no receipt) Comp cam was installed in the donor car -- no receipt, no cam card 399 rwhp per previous owner (no dyno sheets, but I certainly believe it) I have most of the receipts for the DSE parts, the Currie rear end and other random parts. As stated previously, much of the engine work was done to the donor car prior to installation, so no receipts were included. BODY: When the car was built, it was taken down to bare metal, primed and painted flat black. No filler or prep work was done, so you can see everything that the car needs in the detailed photos in the photobucket links. As it sits, the car is solid and would probablly last forever with very little further deterioration -- perfect for the way I have used it. Depending on your intent, you could fill, smooth and paint all the existing panels to a nice driver quality that would look great at the local shows. Restore the car to a concours level, you'd need to add a full left quarter panel, a partial right quarter repair panel, and a left door (lots of mud from years ago). The other panels could probably be repaired or reused, but as cheap as quality reproduction parts are for these cars, I personally would just replace everything except the roof to make it a concours winner. Even at this level of restoration, one could finish this car to his or her taste for less than what they're asking for completed cars today. Again, refer to the 200+ photos that are linked to decide for yourself what you'd want to do. Current needs: All of the main factory guages (speedo, tach, temp, volts, oil pressure) work correctly. However, neither fuel guage works. The factory guage will not commuticate the fuel sender, and the aftermarket guage has not worked since I purchased the car -- most likely needs a sender that is compatible with the fuel cell, but I don't know for sure. The fuel cell holds 22 gallons, so it was never a big deal to me. This car uses the factory computer, and many of the sensors to the auxiliary components have been removed. So, the dash lights for the ABS and Brake , SRS Airbags, Service engine soon lights, low oil level (no sensor in Autokraft oil pan) and probably others which I can't remember are always on. I would imagine that the computer could be reprogrammed to ignore those sensors, but I would probably just remove the bulbs. There are absolutely no drivability problems as a result of these lights. For track usage, the brakes need some final sorting. Under heavy braking, the car pulls hard to the left and gets a spongy pedal. Initially I found one of the front calipers had a few pistons frozen, so they were both rebuilt. While that has improved the performance, the problem still exists. The rear brakes use corvette calipers and still have the emergency brake in operation. To achieve this, a right rear caliper is mounted on the left rear -- which means the bleeder screw is on the bottom of the caliper instead of on the top. I believe that removing the parking brake and replacing with a proper left caliper or relocating the current caliper would allow the brakes to be bled completely and would thus cure the problem. Just an educated guess -- but there are no guarantees. Power steering works perfectly, but feels a bit overboosted at track speeds. Just takes some getting used to. Power steering cooler has been added, so no issues boiling fluid. Power window switches need to be properly mounted when the new door panels are installed -- they currently work fine, they just don't stay in place -- measurements were off by a little in the current location. RS headlight assemblies rotate freely and slide back and forth by hand, but they do not work on their own. DSE electric headlight door motors were installed by the builder, but they've never operated properly for me. The grill needs fitted better because the headlight doors hang up on it when you open and close them. The car makes various squeeks, rattles and noises characteristic of a car that needs finished. Moldings, rubber stops and all that jazz will go a long way to quiet it down. There are a few random speakers in the car, but you really need to upgrade if you want to hear the stereo over the music made by the car itself. The car has been driven in the rain. It is not a trailer queen underneath. It was built to be driven, and it has been. There is no heat or a/c installed -- it is a track car after all. PHOTO LINKS: I have posted a few random photos in the body of this ad, but there are over 200 more photos available at photobucket dot com. Please take the time to view all the photos so that you can get a more complete understanding of what the car is and isn't. Link #1 includes over 100 photos taken 9/28/2012 and show the car as it sits today. http://s1194.beta.photobucket.com/user/htron435/library/1967%20CAMARO%20PRO%20TOURING%20TRACK%20CAR%20SEPT%2028%202012 Link #2 includes photos of the undercarriage that were taken earlier but within the last 100 miles. http://s1194.beta.photobucket.com/user/htron435/library/1967%20CAMARO%20PRO%20TOURING%20TRACK%20CAR%20SEPT%2028%202012/More%20Camaro%20photos Link #3 is a collection of photos that I received with the car when I purchased it. These document the build process. http://s1194.beta.photobucket.com/user/htron435/library/1967%20CAMARO%20PRO%20TOURING%20TRACK%20CAR%20SEPT%2028%202012/More%20Camaro%20photos IN CONCLUSION: In conclusion, this car fires up and operates just like any 2002 Camaro (which is essentially what it is). The modern DSE suspension has transformed the handling, yet offers a very compliant ride. The computer controlled functions work flawlessly with no sorting necessary. The cruise control and steering wheel radio controls work just as they did in the donor car. The car is well set up for its intended use. And it offers an excellent starting point for a full-on Pro-touring build at pennies on the dollar. I am selling this as a Race Car that is not street legal ONLY because I don't know if the fuel cell meets DOT compliance. For those of you who frequent the pro-touring dot com website, you can look up some of the build (the builder is an active member of the forum with the user name Camaro AJ ). You are buying this car with a clear Ohio title, the car is titled as a 1967 Camaro using its original VIN. It is available for inspection at my dealership during regular business hours. Feel free to call me (Jay) at 937-325-3748 with any questions or for any clarifications prior to the close of the auction. Important -- since I originally listed this car last week, I've had a number of people ask if I'd take any trades or what I'd take to end the auction early. So allow me to address these points: 1. ABSOLUTELY NO TRADES OF ANY KIND. 2. I WANT THIS CAMARO TO SELL VIA THE AUCTION PROCESS. However, if you don't want to risk losing the car to a last second sniper's bid, I will end the auction early for $2000 over whatever the current bid price is (at the time I RECEIVE the deposit) as long as you send me a $2000 NON REFUNDABLE DEPOSIT. So, for example, if there are no bids, I will end the auction early for $22000. If the bid price is $20200, and you wait 24 hrs to send the deposit, and the bid price is $20700 when I RECEIVE the deposit, then your buy it now price is $22700. In other words, if you'd like me to end the auction early, you must send a deposit immediately to secure the agreed upon price -- it's a shame that I have to say that, but I've been down that road once already. If this seems unreasonable, please just bid on the car. And remember, ONE BID WILL BUY THIS CAR FOR $20000. Thank you for understanding. 3. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES WILL I SELL THIS CAMARO FOR LESS THAN $20000. NOT TODAY, NOT NEXT MONTH , NOT IN THE DEAD OF WINTER WITH 3' OF SNOW ON THE GROUND. I have plenty of storage space, and as we all know, this car will be worth more in April than it is today. The best, least expensive way to buy this car is to bid. If it doesn't sell, please don't contact me with an offer for less. Again, thank you for understanding. 4. The Camaro will be available to be inspected in person at MID OHIO SPORTSCAR COURSE this Thursday afternoon thru Sunday (it will be at my dealership otherwise). I'll be attending a PCA DE this weekend and I believe that it's a good place to advertise the car (seeing the car on track is believing). I will be taking the Camaro out for a few sessions on track. I'm sorry if that bothers you, but it's still my car to enjoy until you place a bid. Also be aware that the car will then have some more miles on it than what the listing currently shows. IF THERE IS A BID BEFORE I LEAVE AT 3:00 EST THURSDAY, THE CAR WILL STAY HOME IN THE GARAGE. IF A BID COMES IN WHEN I'M AT THE TRACK, I'LL PARK THE CAR AS SOON AS I FIND OUT. I'll have access to another car, so it's not a big deal. 5. I would welcome you or your agent to view the car in person prior to bidding -- we'll go for a ride, I'll put it up on a lift, etc. I'm more than happy to spend any amount of time necessary with you on the phone or in person to discuss the car ad nausium -- I'm a track junkie car nut just like you are. However, please only contact me if you are willing and able to buy -- as much as I love to talk cars, I do have many obligations and very little spare time. Once more, thank you for understanding. 6. ADDED 10/12/12 For what it's worth, today I turned a 1:42.8 on the club course @ Mid Ohio (club course uses the chicane, pro course does not). Still on street tires (which are woefully insufficient for track duty on this car). Brakes were bled and do not pull hard to the left anymore, but the pedal still gets spongy and need to be pumped approaching the braking zone. Legal Stuff: Jay North LLC is an Ohio licensed auto dealer. The North family has been serving our community since 1965. We are members in good standing of the National Independent Auto Dealers Association (NIADA), and Jay North is a board member and current board chairman of the Ohio Independent Auto Dealers Association (OIADA). In addition to the final bid price, all buyers are responsible for $165.00 for documentary service charge and title fees. We will collect sales tax due for Ohio residents at the rate charged by their home county as well as sales tax due for residents of states having a reciprocal agreement with the Ohio. For out of country or overseas buyers, we will collect any taxes or fees required by the state of Ohio. ANY EXPORT OR SIMILAR FEES ARE YOUR RESPONSIBILITY. This car is 45 years old with many custom features, so it is being sold AS-IS by Jay North LLC with no warranty expressed or implied by the dealer. A reminder that this car is being sold as a race car that is not street legal, even though it most likely is. This is due only to the fact that we are a licensed dealer. We don't traditionally deal in classics or race cars, so we simply want to limit any liability. You will receive a clear Ohio title in your name. This car is being offered for sale locally. As such, WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO END THIS AUCTION EARLY EVEN IF THE RESERVE HAS BEEN MET. Please note -- WE DO NOT OFFER IN HOUSE DELIVERY, SO PLEASE DO NOT CONTACT US ASKING HOW MUCH TO SHIP TO YOUR LOCATION.

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