Detail Info for: Buick : Park Avenue NR.CLASSIC.BEAUTY.FABULOUS.ONLY 25K miles rebuilt 7" DVD HEATED LEATHER SEATS.POWER-ALL cf truck van suv hybrid wagon convertible

Transaction Info
Sold On:
01/26/2014
Price:
$ 1430.00
Condition:
Mileage:
225000
Location:
Milpitas, California, 95035
Seller Type:
Dealer
Vehicle Specification
Year Make Model:
2000 Buick Park Avenue
Submodel Body Type:
NR.CLASSIC.BEAUTY.FABULOUS.ONLY 25K miles rebuilt Sedan
Engine:
3.8L 3800CC 231Cu. In. V6 GAS OHV Naturally Aspira
Transmission:
Automatic
VIN:
1G4CW52K9Y4137848
Vehicle Title:
Clear
Drive Train:
Fuel Type:
GAS
Standard Equipment:
Optional Equipment:
Vehicle Detail
P.S I am re-listing this now again because the winning bidder called me up and gave me some sort of a story that he won my listing last week ( which is in fact not true ). I am not sure where this is headed . If he comes and picks up the car like a honest buyer - I will end this listing - else I will lay open JUST Like last week all the correspondence I had w/ the buyer and I will also demonstrate how anyone can verify who is telling the truth and who is not. Will update the listing accordingly. <> Why is the car being relisted again ? 1st time - Ebay took down this auction for the most flimsy reasons. The reason for taking down my auction was I left youtube links to vidoes I had of the car ( so this time I removed links ) . Apparently this was loss of revenue for them ? Ebay keeps changing its policies very frequently , without any concensus from its selling community and without warning. They then enforce them aribitarily not bothering about what impact it would have on sellers and without even warning them . Gone are the days when ebay was fair to buyers and sellers.RIght now Ebay feels more like a Clandestine Mafia to the avg seller. Beleive me , I am not a guy who keeps complaining - but if you are the avg ( NON DEALER) seller and want to sell - you will see how they'd care totally less about you . 2nd time - the car sold but the winning bidder by the name of Dave Miller from BC , Canada- BACKED OFF the deal. He Asked me where the car was and I told him where it was North California- BEFORE THE AUCTION ENDED. At auction end - he asked the SAME QUESTION "Oh I thought the car is in B.C." ... Here are my actual inbox emails from ebay Other: clearwaterdave sent a message about Buick : Park Avenue NR.CLASSIC.BEAUTY.FABULOUS.ONLY 25K miles rebuilt #111247356457From: clearwaterdaveSent: Jan-05-14 07:26 PMYou replied to this message on Jan-06-14. eBay sent this message to SAUREN MISTRY (cool9deal). Your registered name is included to show this message originated from eBay. Learn more.This member has a question for you. Do not respond to the sender if this message requests that you complete the transaction outside of eBay. This type of offer is against eBay policy, may be fraudulent, and is not covered by buyer protection programs. Learn More Dear cool9deal, where is the car .you said b.c. clarify - clearwaterdave I answered as below Re: Other: clearwaterdave sent a message about Buick : Park Avenue NR.CLASSIC.BEAUTY.FABULOUS.ONLY 25K miles rebuilt #111247356457From: cool9dealSent: Jan-06-14 11:43 AM eBay sent this message to SAUREN MISTRY (cool9deal). Your registered name is included to show this message originated from eBay. Learn more.Seller has responded to your question about this item Do not respond to the sender if this message requests that you complete the transaction outside of eBay. This type of offer is against eBay policy, may be fraudulent, and is not covered by buyer protection programs. Learn More Dear clearwaterdave, Mr Dave Miller When are you coming to pick up the car. I tired to vain to call you and ended up talking to your son. Pl update me with your plans. I am leaving abroad and I want to car sold asap- time is of essence. you won bid - asked me about the car location , I answered before the bid closed and after that. Now PL tell me when you want to come and pick up the car. TY Sam - cool9deal He did not pick up phone calls after that . No response to emails . NOTHING .Its bidders like this that bring disrepute to ebay. The reason - I am posting these messages is to tell you just 1 thing- the car is not at fault. The slackly ebay rules regarding bidding and buyer's flinching back, for just no reason , is causing the car to be re-listed. BUICK PARK AVENUE : LOADED - DVD VIDEO PLAYER BLUETOOTH AND MORE BUICK PARK AVENUE 2000 : DONT LET THE HI MILEAGE ON THIS PUPPY FRIGHTEN YOU. I BELIEVE MY LAST MECHANIC DID AN ENGINE REBUILD , WHEN IT WAS LAST SERVICED, (THOUGH I seem to have lost the recs ) THIS IS A NICE SPACIOUS RETRO STYLED SEDAN SPORTING A STATE OF ART V6 OHC ENGINE. THIS CAR GIVES BETTER ECONOMY THAN THE SAME YEAR CAMRY OR NISSAN AND YET ITS A LOT MORE SPACIOUS. 23 mpg on hwg / 19 mpg on the streets/ THE 25K MILEAGE IS MILEAGE AFTER REBUILD. WHEN I BOUGHT THE CAR , IT WAS LIKE 198K MILES. IT WORKED PERFECTLY THEN . I PLANNED ON USING THIS FOR 4-5 YEARS ( WHICH IS JUST WHAT HAPPENED ) SO I HAD A MECHANIC REBUILD THE ENGINE AND INSTALL THE DVD ETC. SO THE FUNCTIONAL ENGINE LIFE IS 25K MILES AFTER REBUILD. THAT IS WHAT I SAID IN THE TITLE - AND I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR HERE. ENGINE BRAKES TRANSMISSION EVERYTHING IN PERFECT ORDER DVD CD MP3 PLAYER SD / USB PLAYER GPS HANDS FREE BLUETOOTH BACKUP CAMERA - I am giving this free but its not yet installed. If it sells more than $3200 then I will get it installed free at my expense. POWER LOADED : POWER DOORS, POWER MIRROR, POWER SEATS, POWER REAR VIEW , POWER WINDOWS, BUILT IN COMPASS ON REAR MIRROR CRUISE CONTROL DUAL HEATED SEATS HUGE SUPER SPACIOUS TRUNK - CAN EASILY ACCOMODATE 3 HUGE TRUNKS / SUIT-CASES/ POWERFUL SUPER BASS SPEAKERS. TRACTION CONTROL SYSTEM (TCS) WOOD GRAIN DASH LEATHER SEATS , AND INTERIOR DUAL CLIMATE CONTROL. AUTOMATIC WIPERS ON RAIN CONTACT . SPACIOUS PASSENGER SEATS DASH INFORMATION SYSTEM : TELLS YOU INSTANTLY FUEL STATUS, MPG, OIL PRESSURE, TYRE PRESSURE, COOLANT TEMPERATURE, AND MOST IMP WHEN ITS TIME TO DO AN OIL CHANGE. MAKE SURE YOU CHANGE OIL REGULARLY AS RECOMMENDED. NEW BRAKES AND BRAKE ROTORS . XENON (NOT SURE IF THATS WHAT THEY GO BY ) LIGHTS - COOL WHITE LIGHTS FOR HEADLAMPS AUTOMATIC HEADLAMP TURN ON WHEN ITS DARK OR YOU ARE IN A TUNNEL SUPER SOFT SHOCKS : WHEN YOU RIDE THIS YOU GET THE SAME 'LINCOLN' EFFECT - AS IF RIDING A STAGE COACH. FULLY TINTED GLASSES ALL AROUND CLEAN TITLE SO WHATS WRONG WITH THIS CAR ? NOTHING . THERE IS NOTHING WRONG AT ALL. YOU JUST KEEP FILLING THE GAS . CHANGE OIL AND IT KEEPS RUNNING ON AND ON AND ON ................. Having said that , understand that this car is USED. ITS NOT GOING TO LOOK 'NEW' . Consistent with usage ,you will find that there are dings ,scratches ,paint chips and discolorations. The seat belt on drivers side does not click - it needs a handle ( receptacle ) change - should cost you $20 on ebay or $5 at a used car shop. The windshield is slightly cracked on the lower aspect but I could conceal a large part of that by putting on tinted glass row . It does NOT impair the drivers vision. So let me ask you this ....are you Miss Picky ? If you expect this car like its prepped up by a dealer so it looks show room for some $4000 ( those dealer cars look pretty and within 1 month all the "make up" falls apart ....you got to understand that ) ... If you are going to look at every single corner of the car with a microscope .... ....if you expect to pay for beer and expect champagne in a champagne bottle...then FORGET looking here. This is not for you . ----If you expect good quality beer in a beer bottle --- this is for you . .....If you expect champagne in a beer bottle - YES this will still work for you. I have maintained, prepped and used this car,as an honest - 'mom and pop' seller - not selling it like a used car salesman . I hope this clarifies many things and how you should keep your expectations. ASK ME QUESTIONS ( preferred via ebay contact me ) ,REGARDING THE CAR , MY TEL 925 400 7190 . Send me a Text first please . ONCE YOU BID - YOU HAVE COMMITTED TO BUY. If you 'd like a test ride - that can be arranged , absolutely. Let me know a day in advance at least. I am free after 7 pm only though IF YOU WIN THIS AUCTION - PL PAY ME A $200 "BOOKING AMT" within 24 hrs by paypal. Then you can come in a few days time and pick up the car - against CASH / CASHIERS CHECK / MONEY ORDER. FOR CASHIERS CHECK / MO - I HAVE TO VERIFY THE CHECK IS REAL ACTUAL VIDEO OF THIS CAR. IT HAS 4 PARTS SO THE QUALITY IS NOT GREAT ESP WHEN IT COMES TO GETTING THE ENGINE SHOT AS BY THIS TIME IT WAS ALREADY DUSK --THE 1ST PART SHOWS THE BUICK BEING FILMED FROM OUTSIDE. THE QUALITY OF THE SHOOT ISN'T AT ALL IMPRESSIVE AND I DO APOLOGIZE OF FOR THAT . MY ROOM-MATE IS'NT THE SHARPEST SHOOTER OUT THERE . ---NEXT- I am actually DRIVING THE CAR ON INTERSTATE. THIS IS A BETTER CLIP . IT CLEARLY SHOWS THE RPM AND SPEEDOMETER ( AT 70). I could go faster but there was TRAFFIC around. You can see where I tried to change lanes and move to the lefter speed lane but - it was 'nt an empty hwy at this time that too on a week-end. -- 3rd part shows I am parked and fidgeting with the video player. There is a Video and Audio sample being played. These come from a SD card I inserted. But it can play your IPHONE IPAD , USB connection and DVD- best of my K. --4th part that is'nt that clear shows the engine. I will be able to upload a better video of the engine tomorrow morning. if you CANT see the video - contact me via ebay . Ebay does NOT even allow you to post youtube links. OK . So here is another video , of the Buick with the engine roaring. Taken this morn ( Friday 8th nov) . I already started up the car and the engine is already on. I will take another clear shoot if this isn't good enough a little later today. Here is the link in case the video does not show up Another video : this one shows memory seat adjustments ( someone asked about this feature). You can see me twiddling the memory buttons and can hear the noise of the seat motors in the background. I did set the memory a long time ago - forgotten how I did it . I have the manual that'll tell you how that is done . The other part of the video shows the engine being RAVED UP AND DOWN and here is another video of the car being driven at 70-80 mph. I had to shoot it while driving as you can see- so it had to be short lived - wasn't the most comfortable thing to do while keeping up with the traffic. It's taken w/ an Iphone so the quality isn't terrific but good enough to convey the NICE RUNNING CONDITION of the car BOTTOMLINE IS THIS : THIS IS A VERY RELIABLE CAR. YOU CAN COME PICK IT FROM HERE IN CALIFORNIA AND DRIVE IT ALL THE WAY TO NEW YORK WITH CONFIDENCE-I WILL GIVE YOU MY WORD FOR IT . ITS BODY AND INTERIOR ARE NOT OVERTLY PLUSHED, THAT A DEALER WOULD DO IF HE BOUGHT THIS CAR AND HAD TO RESELL IT. THEY SHOW USAGE INSIDE AND OUTSIDE & MIGHT NEED A BIT OF A FACE LIFT - THOUGHT IT DOES NOT REALLY LOOK UNPRESENTABLE - THE WAY IT IS JUST ANOTHER NOTE. IF You have ZERO FEEDBACK- PL DO ME A KIND FAVOR -CONTACT ME 1ST WITH YOUR NAME, TEL # DETAILS so I know you are real and have genuine intentions.Failing this , I have NO CHOICE but cancel Zero Bids towards auction end to prevent dead-bidding Thank you for your understanding and co-operation. Have a wonderful day ahead MORE VIDEOS : Here are some other Videos I took of the car, recently , that I did not upload until now, when I found the time- some of the clips in those may overlap with stuff posted above already. Cant recollect which ones are new, so I am posting them again Another Question was asked - if I can accept Bill Pay / Paypal : Just to clarify - except for the initial deposit mentioned - I CANNOT ACCEPT paypal . It will have to be CASH ( I can make some exception for MO or other reliable methods of payment ) . WHY am I saying this so loudly ? There is a huge scam going on the net called the "Paypal Chargeback scam" . Google that and you will find out. Here are some videos about how the scam runs, so you know, I am not just talking baloney . The reason I am putting this out here is NOT to Discredit paypal but to , DISPEL those persons who hope to scam me paying with Paypal ( that is if there are those , watching this auction ) . Again - If you are an honest buyer - you have no cause to concern. I am putting this out there to let those who plan to use the above scam , know , that I am aware of all the stuff that is happening out there and not to try too hard . HERE IS SOME MORE INFO ABOUT BUICK PARK AVENUE 2000 REVIEWS ETC from AOL auto Muscular grace, athletic response and lots of room. INTRODUCTION Buick Park Avenue offers refinement and elegance, but it's a practical car. Quiet and luxurious, the Park Avenue provides a roomy cabin and a big trunk. Excellent road manners with surprisingly good dynamic capabilities make for an enjoyable driving experience. StabiliTrak is now available on the Park Avenue. StabiliTrak is designed to help the driver maintain control when the car is in danger of sliding or skidding, and it comes standard on the 2000 Park Avenue Ultra. Further improving safety are side air bags, which come standard on Park Avenues, along with new rear child seat tether anchors. LINEUP Two models are available: Park Avenue and Park Avenue Ultra. Park Avenue ($31,800) comes with a 205-horsepower 3.8-liter V6 engine. It comes trimmed in cloth with power windows, power mirrors, climate control, cruise control, automatic headlights and other convenience features. Anti-lock brakes and side air bags are standard. Park Avenue Ultra ($36,800) gets a 240-horsepower supercharged version of the same V6. Trimmed in leather and wood, the Ultra adds heated front seats, mirrors with parallel park assist, a compass, moisture-sensing wipers and other features. In addition to its more powerful engine, the Ultra comes with StabiliTrak, traction control, a heavy-duty transmission and magnetic speed-sensitive power steering. WALKAROUND Park Avenue presents a muscular grace that Buick designers want their cars to project, particularly in the slightly more aggressive looks of the Ultra. Park Avenue prioritizes comfort over style. Its cabin and trunk are the roomiest in the class and big doors make getting in and out easy. Park Avenue packs these virtues in a shape that's graceful and quietly elegant. INTERIOR The Park Avenue offers more interior room in both the front and rear seats than the Lincoln Continental or Chrysler LHS. Getting in and out is devoid of the simultaneous duck-and-bend movement required in swoopier designs. The trunk is slightly larger than that of the LHS and Continental. The interior looks clean and tasteful. The cowl curves modestly over the main instruments. Besides offering a contemporary appearance, this design allows room for a big speedometer and tachometer that are easy to scan. The dashboard shows sharp color contrasts between secondary controls (sound and climate control systems) and the main interior colors. Wood trim accents the door trim panels. Audio and climate controls use big buttons that are easy to find and operate when the car is in motion. The Ultra includes a full array of luxury goodies - premium CD sound system, leather, power everything - that make the going more pleasant. A trip computer allows the driver to calculate fuel economy and miles to empty. It also provides tire pressure, oil level and coolant level information. Two trip odometers are provided, which can be useful on long trips. Next Generation (reduced force) dual front airbags are standard and side airbags are optional. The Park Avenue offers a strong safety cage construction and the doors are designed to automatically unlock within 15 seconds of an airbag deployment. The Park Avenue offers low insurance costs when compared with other cars. It also offers good fuel efficiency: an EPA-estimated 19 miles per gallon city, 28 mpg highway for Park Avenue and 18/27 for the supercharged Ultra. The Concert Sound III stereo system, which comes standard on the Ultra and is available as an option on the Park Avenue, come with nine speakers, an amplifier and an integrated antenna system. DRIVING IMPRESSION The Park Avenue uses one of the stiffest chassis in the entire GM warehouse. That's a big plus. A stiff chassis helps the suspension engineers create ride and handling traits appropriate to a particular car's target market. It also makes it easier to keep noise out of the car, and pays long-term durability benefits. Given this trait, it was interesting to see the handling distinctions between the basic Park Avenue and the flagship Ultra. The ride and handling traits of the standard Park Avenue are indistinguishable from its predecessors, traits that have earned big Buick sedans a stodgy image over the years - floating ride quality, pronounced body roll and vague power steering. We prefer the livelier performance of the Park Avenue Ultra. With its supercharged engine and touring suspension, it can easily take on the best Lincoln and Chrysler have to offer. If the Ultra's extra performance isn't important to you, the standard Park Avenue may be the way to go. The Park Avenue comes well equipped and stacks up as an exceptional buy among large cars. GM's 3800 Series II V6 offers enough smooth, quiet power to provide brisk acceleration. Available in 205-horsepower normally aspirated (Park Avenue) and 240-horsepower supercharged (Ultra) versions, the 3800 delivers lots of low rpm getaway power, instant throttle response, and plenty of punch for passing. Power is transferred to the front wheels through one of GM's butter-smooth electronically controlled 4-speed automatic transmissions. They're among the best in the business. Anti-lock brakes come standard. Its optional Gran Touring suspension further improves the responsiveness of the Park Avenue by replacing the standard Dynaride suspension with stiffer suspension components. The Gran Touring Package is available for the Ultra ($200) and includes special 16-inch aluminum wheels and 225/60R16 Goodyear Eagle LS Touring tires. When ordered for the Park Avenue ($335 or $285 when purchased with the leather package), the package also includes dealer-programmable magnetic variable-effort steering and a leather-wrapped steering wheel. The steering system, which is different from the basic Park Avenue, varies the amount of power assist as vehicle speed and/or steering wheel angle increases, providing a significantly better sense of where the front wheels are pointed. The stiffer suspension package reduces ride height slightly and yields much sharper responses in quick maneuvers. The tradeoff in ride quality from the standard Park Avenue is minuscule. All in all, the Ultra's enhanced control and firmer ride lends a contemporary feel that's a pleasant step forward for Buick. Quiet operation has always been a top priority for Buick sedans, and here too the Park Avenues represent a step forward. Wind noise has been reduced to a mere whisper, and the unitbody does a superior job of keeping road noise out of the cabin. The supercharged engine is audible at full throttle, but we think it's worth a little extra noise to have its superior thrust. Add roomy seats with real move-around comfort, and the going becomes positively serene, particularly in freeway cruising. The Park Avenue isn't quite as quiet as a Lexus LS 400, but the distinctions are academic in most operating situations - unlike the distinction in price. SUMMARY Buick has characterized itself as a purveyor of 'Premium American Motorcars,' and the Park Avenue is its ambassador for this theme with subdued good looks, class-leading roominess, and many luxury features. It's also an excellent value for a car in this size and price class. The Park Avenue is no sports sedan, but the Ultra with the Gran Touring Suspension is surprisingly athletic. MODEL LINEUP Park Avenue ($31,800); Ultra ($36,800). ASSEMBLED IN Orion, Michigan. OPTIONS AS TESTED Power moonroof ($1095); Gran Touring Suspension ($200). MODEL TESTED Park Avenue Ultra ($36,800). MSN CARS Average Consumer Rating21 Total Reviews Write a review Change Vehicle Performance Comfort Value Fun-to-Drive Interior Design Exterior Design Build Quality Reliability great car By kens on 09/22/02 00:00 AM (PDT) Vehicle2000 Buick Park Avenue 4dr Sedan ReviewI bought this car used with 20,000 mi on it from a rental place. It has been almost perfect. the only problem i had was a electronic door lock switch falling inside the door. however as a rental you can be sure it git rough use. now had 35k miles on it and have never done anything but scheduled maint. Favorite Featuresquiet ride, good performance considering it's a family boat. Retail $37,160 Invoice $33,630 ENGINES & POWER more Ultra Standard Engine 3.8L 240 hp V6 Horsepower 240 @ 5200 RPM Torque (lb-ft) 280 @ 3600 RPM TRANSMISSIONS more Ultra 4-Speed Automatic Overdrive Std. FUEL ECONOMY more Ultra City (mpg) 18 Highway (mpg) 27 COMFORT & CONVENIENCE more Ultra Sunroof N/A Air Conditioning Std. Power Windows Std. Power Door Locks Std. Leather Seats Std. Power Seats Std. Max. Seating 6 Number of Doors 4 ENTERTAINMENT more Ultra Cassette Player N/A CD Player Std. Nav. System N/A SAFETY more Ultra Airbags Driver Passenger Side ABS Brakes Std. Traction Control Std. Stability Control N/A FINAL ASSEMBLY Ultra Location United States IIHS FRONTAL OFFSET CRASH TESTAbout IIHS Each vehicle’s frontal offset crashworthiness is based on performance in a 40 mph frontal offset crash test. Ratings depend on how well the structure/safety cage protects the occupant compartment, the risk of injury measured for an average-sized male, and how well the restraint system controls occupant movement. Rating Key: G Good A Acceptable M Marginal P Poor Injury measures Vehicle make/model OVERALL Structure/ safety cage Head/ neck Chest Leg/foot left, right Restraints/ dummy kinematics 2000 Buick Park Avenue G G G G GG G (Tested: 1999 Buick Park Avenue 4-door) Get full details from IIHS MODEL WARRANTY The information shown below only applies to the original equipment manufacturer warranty. Ultra Basic (mo.) 36 Basic (mi.) 36,000 Powertrain (mo.) 36 Powertrain (mi.) 36,000 Rust (mo.) 72 Rust (mi.) 100,000 INTERIOR DIMENSIONS Ultra Standard Seating 6 Optional Seating 5 Front Headroom (in.) 39.80 Rear Headroom (in.) 38.00 Front Legroom (in.) 42.40 Rear Legroom (in.) 41.40 Front Shoulder Room (in.) 59.20 Rear Shoulder Room (in.) 58.70 Front Hip Room (in.) 56.40 Rear Hip Room (in.) 55.70 HEATING, VENTILATION & AIR CONDITIONING Ultra Air Conditioning Std. Separate Driver/Front Passenger Climate Controls N/A INTERIOR FEATURES Ultra Cruise Control Std. Tachometer Std. Tilt Steering Std. Tilt Steering Column N/A Heated Steering Wheel N/A Leather Steering Wheel N/A Steering Wheel Mounted Controls N/A Telescopic Steering Column N/A Adjustable Foot Pedals N/A Genuine Wood Trim N/A Tire Inflation/Pressure Monitor N/A Trip Computer N/A ENTERTAINMENT, COMMUNICATION & NAVIGATION Ultra Radio Std. Cassette Player N/A CD Player Std. CD Changer N/A DVD Player N/A Hands Free or Voice Activated Telephone N/A Navigational Aid N/A Second Row Sound Controls/Accessories N/A Subwoofer N/A Telematic Systems N/A SEATS Ultra Driver Multi-Adjustable Power Seat Std. Front Cooled Seats N/A Front Heated Seat N/A Front Power Lumbar Support N/A Front Power Memory Seat N/A Front Split Bench Seat N/A Leather Seat Std. Passenger Multi-Adjustable Power Seat N/A Second Row Folding Seat N/A Second Row Heated Seat N/A Second Row Multi-Adjustable Power Seat N/A Second Row Removable Seat N/A Third Row Removable Seat N/A STORAGE Ultra Cargo Area Cover N/A Cargo Area Tiedowns N/A Cargo Net N/A Load Bearing Exterior Rack N/A Pickup Truck Bed Liner N/A ROOF Ultra Power Sunroof/Moonroof N/A Removable/Convertible Top N/A Manual Sunroof/Moonroof this car category is Luxury GM Cars same as Ford , Chevy, Cadillac , Saturn , Oldsmobile , Plymouth , Chrysler , Explorer , Lincoln . its not the same as other European cars - BMW VW Mercedes Porsche Mini Fiat Audi Or Japanese Cars like Toyota Nissan Honda Hyundai Lexus Infiniti Acura Mazda Prius N/A On Jan-13-14 at 02:00:56 PST, seller added the following information: MORE VIDEOS : Here are some other Videos I took of the car, recently , that I did not upload until now, when I found the time- some of the clips in those may overlap with stuff posted above already. Cant recollect which ones are new, so I am posting them again